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Heat tape/temperature help

stormwulf133 Aug 07, 2008 10:39 AM

I am trying to get my rack system adjusted which has 4" flexwatt heat tape on it. I have two different digital thermometers (ESU) with the probes tucked under, and setting directly on the tape. One reads 88.9 the other one reads 91.0. I shoot that spot with my heat guns and one reads 101, the other reads like 103. What the heck is going on? How do I get an accurate reading. I am using 4 devices in the same spot and getting 4 different readings!
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1.0.0 Yorkshire Terrier (Ragnar)
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Replies (2)

stormwulf133 Aug 07, 2008 11:42 AM

As an update to this, I added 3 more digital thermos to the tape. 2 different brands. All the digitals are reading around the same (2 degrees difference max) but the heat guns (2 different ones) are both reading considerably higher, is the flexwatt to reflective to get an accurate reading? I know that the guns wont work on reflective surfaces. Can someone who has rack systems please help?
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3.2.0 Corn Snakes (Jareth, Morkai, Gunner, Selene, Angela)
1.1.0 Ball Pythons
1.0.0 Yorkshire Terrier (Ragnar)
0.1.0 Kenya Sand Boa het Snow (Moo)
0.1.0 Red Tail Boa(Annabelle)

markg Aug 07, 2008 02:10 PM

I would use one temp reading device and not worry about comparing. If you look at the specs, they are often accurate to plus/minus 2 deg C over the range. That means plus/minus 3.6 deg F. That is a large variance over the entire range and can translate to some variation at any one temperature. If you wanted a thermometer accurate to .01%, it would cost $300 easy.

When you have a probe taped to Flexwatt, you are sensing the average temperature of the heater plus tape plus air space around the probe. The smaller the probe, the closer the actual temp of the device being read. And probes can be affected by airflow, etc.

For infrared thermometers, the emmissivity of the object (reflective/absorbtive property) affects the reading.

Also, if there is an air space under a portion of the Flexwatt, a probe may register a slightly higher temp at that point. Understand that Flexwatt only provides so much power. Even a 100 deg F spot will not hold 100 deg F once touching a box and spreading the heat energy out.

So, it doesn't matter. Reptiles move around to adjust their internal temperature. If you give them enough temp range and enough room to thermoregulate, it doesn't matter if the heat tape is 90 or 88 or 95 or whatever. Racks limit both temp range and room, that is the problem. If the snakes avoid the warm area, turn down your temperature controller a bit.

Also, if you really want to see a stable temperature, measure the temp of a thermal mass over the heater. That is, measure the inside of a box with substrate over the heater. That scenario is less subject to variation than measuring the heater itself.

Covering the heater with sheet metal (aluminum sheet is best - get it at smallparts.com) increases thermal mass and makes for a much more stable temperature.

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Mark

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