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A new long-lasting antibiotic? Convenia

jaykis Aug 07, 2008 07:51 PM

Just released in the past month or so, and is a 3rd generation antibiotic. Lasts 2 full weeks in cats and dogs from one shot. My reptile vet is wagering on 6-8 weeks for reptiles. I've just used it on a particularly difficult infection, although minor. No results yet. It's NOT cheap, as one dose in about a 12lb python is a bit over $40, but it sure beats that every 3 day stuff. Consult your vet for organism sensitivity, of course, and do a culture.
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Replies (7)

wulf Aug 08, 2008 09:05 AM

Sounds good, but it isn't!

There can be many side effects with Convenia so be very careful with this stuff! If you're animal is incompatible to Penicillin your animal might die due to anaphylactic shock!
This antibiotic is quite new, yes, and there must be more clinical tests to finally prove its safty! It sure is comfortable to have only one injection, but I would at least for a while stick to the stuff we already know and which have proven to be good in reptile med. e.g. Marbofloxacin!

Cheers,
Wulf
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jaykis Aug 08, 2008 10:55 AM

It's been tested rather thoroughly in cats and dogs, and my vet (who's specialy is reptiles) seems to think it's ok. No side affects so far. My animal got his shot about a week ago.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
2.3 Woma
4.2 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.1 Bloods
1.1 Balls
2.2 IJ Carpets
1.0 Coastal Carpets
1.3 Macklotts
1.2 F2 Carpondros
2.0 Jungle Carpet
0.1 Carpondro
0.1 Jungle/Diamond cross
.1 Brazilian Rainbow boas
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC

derekroddy Aug 11, 2008 12:30 PM

I've heard about this from a few other keepers....resulting in dead snakes.
Be very careful.
D.

jaykis Aug 12, 2008 11:12 AM

It's been two weeks since my Black head got his shot. He's in shed, but no ill effects at this point.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
2.3 Woma
4.2 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.1 Bloods
1.1 Balls
2.2 IJ Carpets
1.0 Coastal Carpets
1.3 Macklotts
1.2 F2 Carpondros
2.0 Jungle Carpet
0.1 Carpondro
0.1 Jungle/Diamond cross
.1 Brazilian Rainbow boas
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC

jaykis Aug 12, 2008 02:49 PM

" If you're animal is incompatible to Penicillin your animal might die due to anaphylactic shock! "

Convenia is not penicillin based.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
2.3 Woma
4.2 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.1 Bloods
1.1 Balls
2.2 IJ Carpets
1.0 Coastal Carpets
1.3 Macklotts
1.2 F2 Carpondros
2.0 Jungle Carpet
0.1 Carpondro
0.1 Jungle/Diamond cross
.1 Brazilian Rainbow boas
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC

Kelly_Haller Aug 13, 2008 11:35 PM

Cefovecin is a cephalosporin class antibiotic and therefore Wulf's statement about the corresponding incompatibility of cefovecin and penicillin with a particular animal is absolutely correct. Penicillins and cephalosporins are both beta-lactam structure antibiotics and therefore bind to the same protein sites on the bacterial cell wall. Due to this similar molecular structure, if an animal exhibits allergic reactions to penicillin class antibiotics, it will also usually adversely react to cephalosporin class antibiotics as well.

The extended elimination time of cefovecin could be an issue with reptiles as they are more prone to antibiotic toxicity than mammals. Additionally, toxic and adverse reactions to antibiotic therapy many not manifest itself in reptiles for many weeks or months after the cessation of treatment. Another concern about cefovecin is its lack of activity against Pseudomonas ssp., which is one of the more important reptile pathogens.

I would also agree with Wulf as to the use of marbofloxicin. It is a group 3 fluoroquinolone class antibiotic and has an excellent spectrum of activity. Another excellent fluoroquinolone is ciprofloxacin. One major advantage that I believe the fluoroquinolone class of antibiotics has over the cephalosporins is that they appear to be slightly less toxic and more forgiving when it comes to dosing.

Kelly

illbeyoursoldier Sep 08, 2008 08:15 PM

Are you a vet out of curiosity? I'm in school to become one, I'm only a technician right now. But anyways...

We had meetings and training and presentations on Convenia... and the Convenia guy bought the entire hospital lunch, LoL.

Convenia's been recommended by a lot of our doctors, but not many clients take it, as it is very expensive. People that don't want to or feel they cannot pill or give injections to their animals daily usually opt for Convenia. Animal Shelters opt for it often as well when they bring their animals in for treatment.

Its been handed out for several different cases so far... reptiles & mammals. We haven't had any dead or ill yet. Although the side-affect list is hefty, its a decent drug.
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