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How many strains are there? Is the Lemke strain the same as the NE strain?

There are Two LINES of Axanthic: Lemke Strain and New England strain.

They are the same mutation and will produce the same Morph (Axanthics) if bred together.

~ZF

Zenny,......are Barczyc's(BHB) a third line, or did his originate distantly from one of the other two?

thanks, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Doug, to the best of my knowledge the BHB Anery is a completely separate mutation all together.

there was a variation offered here that there are two strains of anery one compatible with Axanthic and the other not compatible.

My theory is that there may be 2x homozygous Axanthic-Anery morphs circulating that would yield those results. i.e. breed to an Axanthic you get 100% Axanthic, breed to an anery you get 100% Anery. these morphs have been around for a while, they've been crossed several times over several generations. I strongly feel the potential from 2x homoZ Axan-Anery is there.

Here's an example I use to show the genes are different:

Hence:
Normal hatchling would be Quad hets: Lavender, Anery, Axanthic & WS and the Axanthics would be 3x het (Lavender, Anery & WS)

So my conclusion is that Axanthic and Anery have two separate genes at work.

Axanthics being Black and Blue-ish-Purple

Anery being Black and White

~Z

Zenny,....Very interesting, as the differences in the two have always been pretty confusing to many, but the test breedings certainly help iron things out.

As you already mentioned, I'm sure by now there are a good number of double homo, and even many more double hets floating around to confuse things even more unless the EXACT lineage is positively known.

Thanks for your breeding example you posted as well!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

Adult BHB Anerys seems to be black and gray. They also show very little if any speckling. The BHB is definitely not Brooksi, matter of fact it is one of the only morphs that is called Floridana. Look at a BHB Snow and then a Snow made with Axanthic. Completely different and easy to identify.
I have seen baby BHB Anerys that were Black and White or Black n Silver [very cool!] but adults are usually very drab but as I always say, mine has a very cool personality. They are cool in their own special way....
Tom Stevens
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Anyone have a pics of the different ones as adults?

Anyone have a pics of the different ones as adults?

New England line of axanthic and BHb anery:

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and be informed -

At the San Jose show today, there was a vendor that had some adult "axanthic brooksi" that looked an awful lot like the anery non brooksi floridana shown in that pic.

Very distinct crossbands. Maybe the gene was axanthic from N.E. or Lemke origin, but those snakes seemed to me anyway to have an awful lot of "dark" floridana in them.
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