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If there are tangerine albinos, how come I've never seen tangerine patternless? And the few patternless that I've seen in person have a bright band of tangerine at the base of the tail, so is a ct-tang-patternless possible? Yeah, if this is dumb, I'm sorry... Never went past Bio in highschool, sacrificed science for carpentry class, so my understanding of genetics isn't the greatest.

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There are definantly tangerine albinos. I guess more people are interested in having tang albinos than tang patternless. But most patternless are pretty yellow anyways. i wonder if we could get a completely orange or red leo by doing it through the patternless?? I dont know if anyone is working on that, but it sounds like a good idea. The leo wouldnt have any spots at all(not even tail ones) and it would be bright tang. That would probably look really cool, but it might look just like a nice superhypo.
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I know quite a few breeders who have put a lot of time into trying to breed tangerine into patternless. They tell me that no matter what they try it seems that the typical patternless coloration dominates the tangerine.

Basically they have had no luck trying to breed tangerine into patternless geckos.

Can it be done? I don't know... but if it is possible it seems that is will be very difficult.
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Leos Anonymous

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About a year and half ago, there was a pic of a tangerine patternless posted on the forum here. The breeder was calling them "Tangelos". It was incredibly stunning, the most beautiful gecko I'd ever seen in fact, but I haven't seen one since. However I have seen some orangey-yellow patternless...not enough to be called tang, but not that typical bright yellow-yellow either...

It was actually my admiration of that gecko that influenced the choice of the foundation male for my breeding program, a hypotangerine albino male het for patternless (according to Tremper).

If my male is what R.T. claims he is, and the tremper-patternless genes are compatible, I could be hatching out both tangelos and patternlessless tangerine albinos this year. However I am not holding my breath on that one, given what I have heard from other's about Trempers "patternless" and supposed incompatibility of the patternless and tremper albinos gene sets.

Of course if I do hatch out a patternless tangerine albino this year, everyone on the forum will probably hear my whoops of excitement carry from all the way in S.F. across the country

Jus did ytthe math on wehn I got my male. I must have seen that pic about two years ago or more

Thanks for jogging my memory...

Tangerine x patternless may be hard to acheive in a similar to way that albino x blizzard is hard to acheive. (even though tangerine is selective, while albino/blizzard is simple recessive)

I guess that it certainly can be done, but seems to be very difficult.

I've got my fingers crossed that you hatch out some nice ones this year Starling.

Best of luck.
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Leos Anonymous

Red Striped Tangerines, Carrot Tails and Screaming Amel Fat-Tails

'patternless'? Because the leo that Tremper has on his breeders page as a patternless is just a super hypo. Or so it seems. She has spots on her head. And no 'pattern' on her back.
If it is tho, good luck on the breeding projects ^_^

I am working on a tang patternless project that I'm going to carry into the albino phase as well, or at least attempt to. Here is the current corner stone of the project: He is the result of two generations of selective breeding between patternless and hypo/super hypo tangerine carrot tail breeding. This guy DOES carry the Ray Hine carrot tail gene.

Uriah Walker

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>>I am working on a tang patternless project that I'm going to carry into the albino phase as well, or at least attempt to. Here is the current corner stone of the project: He is the result of two generations of selective breeding between patternless and hypo/super hypo tangerine carrot tail breeding. This guy DOES carry the Ray Hine carrot tail gene.
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>>Uriah Walker
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>>geckoville
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Next year and in the future i hope to make a true tangerine ct patternless (if it is possible) I hopefully (unless i make other plans!) will breed my hypo tang to a patt. and then breed those together and see what we get. If i get tang looking pattts. than i guess it workes but if i don't then i guess it doesn't work. Right now i have a baby patt. that i'm holding back that is almost tangerine.........I guess.
This is a pic of him. His father is a orang/yellow patt. and his mother is a normal patt.

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