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best rack

jeffk Aug 12, 2008 04:31 PM

im looking to start breeding corns kings or milks and was wondering what the best priced and quality rack system would be. maybe 10 bins like 8 small and 2 large bins. or just 10 small bins. any help would be great.i will be going to the reptile show in daytona so if a good company will be there let me know.
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Jeff Kearney
Orlando, FL

1.0.0 Egyptian Uromastyx (Dino)
2.7.0 Bearded Dragons (Too many to name)
1.0.0 Mali Uromastyx (Rex)
0.1.0 Ball Python (Ali)
0.1.0 Leopard Gecko (Layla)
1.0.0 Panther Gecko (Melman)
0.0.1 Corn Snake (Not sure yet)
0.0.2 Blue Phase Dumpys Tree Frog (Sticky, Squishy)

Replies (16)

HerpZillA Aug 12, 2008 04:45 PM

If you are not able to build your own, maybe find someone who can. Take lots of "good" pictures of critical parts or racks you look at. Even if you can not build a rack, learn to convey the ideas to a carpenter. They are not that hard to build.

But you want to know what you want. What kind of wood, what kind of flew watt, how it is applied, air flow, stats, and the list goes on.

If you even understand the basic ideas on how to build it, you should be able to build one with good basic skills, or find someone.

Also hunt classifieds. They are out there. People jump in and out of the herp hobby all the time.

As for commercial models, I'm sorry I can't help.

I recently emailed the exec of reptiles.tv about their videos. Something a friend and I talked about for years. This would be a GREAT video for someone to put out.

Good luck

I resently emailed the exec of reptiles.tv about their videos. Something a friend and I talked about for years. This would be a GREAT video for someone to put out.

Good luck
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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

www.HerpZillA.com

jeffk Aug 12, 2008 05:05 PM

i found the 10 bin RinoRaxx from boaphile.com and was wondering if anyone has used it or know any one who has. it has 10 shoes box bins the rack heated and is shipped for only $199. thanks.it seems to be the best deal so far.
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Jeff Kearney
Orlando, FL

1.0.0 Egyptian Uromastyx (Dino)
2.7.0 Bearded Dragons (Too many to name)
1.0.0 Mali Uromastyx (Rex)
0.1.0 Ball Python (Ali)
0.1.0 Leopard Gecko (Layla)
1.0.0 Panther Gecko (Melman)
0.0.1 Corn Snake (Not sure yet)
0.0.2 Blue Phase Dumpys Tree Frog (Sticky, Squishy)

HerpZillA Aug 12, 2008 05:24 PM

>>I found the 10 bin RinoRaxx from boaphile.com and was wondering if anyone has used it or know any one who has. it has 10 shoes box bins the rack heated and is shipped for only $199. thanks. it seems to be the best deal so far.

They have a very good rep, I have not been keeping up with anything lately but they switched to a polythylene material which is hard cord stuff. as in GOOD!

What size bins? Does it have a stat, if so what kind? Their bins? Or standard off the shelf?

I'd love to make a big show to see all the commercial items like this. I have FAR more experience in building things in my life, and also interest in design. I love to see great ideas, and at the same time I say why didn't I think of that? lol

I certainly don't know those guys, but I have talked to people that have bought from them, and it was all good.
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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

www.HerpZillA.com

FunkyRes Aug 12, 2008 05:54 PM

Don't use shoebox for corn projects. They have a LOT of babies and they hatch out small. Shoebox is way way way more space they need.

There's a good link on building a cheap but excellent hatchling rack for corns, I'll send you a message when I find it.

For adults, if you want commercial - vision makes very good quality racks. They are designed to be used with heat cable, but I personally use heat tape instead.
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Arrrggg!
It's like Shalom, but for pirates.
- iCarly

jeffk Aug 12, 2008 06:02 PM

im not very handy when it comes to heating. if i have a room in my house that stays about 85 - 90 degrees whould that be okay to heep them in to avoid heat tape or cables. now i was reading in a book that in about november they need to be dropped in to the 60's to start breeding i dont know if thats right but thats what ive read.. well in florida in november / october it is still in the high 80's and i was wondering what i could do to lower them temps. it doesnt get cooler until jan. and thats still only into the 60's and high 50's. i am new to corns and kings and want some info on breeding and what racks are best for a small collection of them
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Jeff Kearney
Orlando, FL

1.0.0 Egyptian Uromastyx (Dino)
2.7.0 Bearded Dragons (Too many to name)
1.0.0 Mali Uromastyx (Rex)
0.1.0 Ball Python (Ali)
0.1.0 Leopard Gecko (Layla)
1.0.0 Panther Gecko (Melman)
0.0.1 Corn Snake (Not sure yet)
0.0.2 Blue Phase Dumpys Tree Frog (Sticky, Squishy)

HerpZillA Aug 12, 2008 06:09 PM

I'd say no, as there is no gradient heat pattern. But please listen to those more experienced.
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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

www.HerpZillA.com

colorfulcorns Aug 13, 2008 10:28 PM

i love the stuff from boaphile plastics highly recommend them
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CD
Corns(Adults)
1.0 Snow ZigZag (01)
1.0 Bloodred het Pewter(05)
0.1 Banded Motley het Amel (01)
0.1 Blizzard het Anery A (01)
Babies
1.0 Normal Aztec het Snow (07)
0.1 Normal Aztec het ???? (08)

wink0083 Aug 12, 2008 05:39 PM

I was thinking about getting one of those exact racks until I got out my tape measure and realized how big the bins really are. They were something like 10 by 16". Pretty small for a full size corn, a water bowl, and a nesting box. That's why I went through the trouble and built my own. For around 150, I got all my wood, lights, heat, and bins (real sized sweater boxes). If you want to get a pre-made, purely my opinion, I'd get one of the models that holds a sterilite 1756 so you can fit everything in the box easily.

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Corns, Leopard Geckos, Amazon Tree Boas, Red Tailed Boas, Ball Pythons, Mississippi Map Turtles, Bearded Dragons.

dknorr Aug 12, 2008 07:35 PM

I really like my racks from Reptile Basics

I'v got the sweater box size for my adults, shoebox size for 0 to 1 year and the in between size for in between snakes.

You can get belly heat (prefered) OR back heat.

Here's a link. http://www.reptilebasics.com/

P.S. I swear I don't get a kickback or work for them!

Dave Knorr
http://hstrial-kknorr.homestead.com/

jeffk Aug 12, 2008 07:52 PM

i might go with them. they have the 12 box rack for 199 heated and with larger tubs. what thermostat would be best for that set up. i am trying to find one at a reasonable price.com
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Jeff Kearney
Orlando, FL

1.0.0 Egyptian Uromastyx (Dino)
2.7.0 Bearded Dragons (Too many to name)
1.0.0 Mali Uromastyx (Rex)
0.1.0 Ball Python (Ali)
0.1.0 Leopard Gecko (Layla)
1.0.0 Panther Gecko (Melman)
0.0.1 Corn Snake (Not sure yet)
0.0.2 Blue Phase Dumpys Tree Frog (Sticky, Squishy)

dknorr Aug 12, 2008 08:11 PM

The 1.99 12-slot rack is really too small for adults. They need a sweaterbox size.

I use mainly Helix, and BAH-1000 thermometers

Dave Knorr

jeffk Aug 12, 2008 09:28 PM

i am really trying to keep the whole set up at $300 with the rack and thermostat. i will be going to daytona. is there anyone gonna be there that has good deals on complete rack setups.
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Jeff Kearney
Orlando, FL

1.0.0 Egyptian Uromastyx (Dino)
2.7.0 Bearded Dragons (Too many to name)
1.0.0 Mali Uromastyx (Rex)
0.1.0 Ball Python (Ali)
0.1.0 Leopard Gecko (Layla)
1.0.0 Panther Gecko (Melman)
0.0.1 Corn Snake (Not sure yet)
0.0.2 Blue Phase Dumpys Tree Frog (Sticky, Squishy)

gypsy1dragon Aug 13, 2008 12:30 AM

How many snakes do you have? I don't think you are going to stay in the $300 range even if you make it yourself. After wood, tubs, water dishes, hides, etc. it adds up. I have made a few of my own racks, but once I get the heat on them they aren't going to be cheap. Good luck.
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1.2 Ghost Corns, Beetlejuice, Casper and Spooky
1.1 Charcoal het pewter, Smokey and Flame
1.1 Hypo het lavender, Rosy and Rocko (RIP Rosy)
1.0 Anery, Goku
0.1 Amel, Sunny
2.0 Tabby Cats, Daddycat and his son Brat
0.1 Australian Shepherd, Angel (RIP Angel)
0.1 Blizzard Corn
0.1 Snow Corn
1 Ball Python
1 WC Yellow Rat
2 WC Normal Corns
1.1 Dumerils Boas
0.1 Redtail Boa
1.0 Dwarf Reticulated Pyton

Gypsy

JeffK Aug 13, 2008 10:35 AM

im looking to get 3 females and 2 males.
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Jeff Kearney
Orlando, FL

1.0.0 Egyptian Uromastyx (Dino)
2.7.0 Bearded Dragons (Too many to name)
1.0.0 Mali Uromastyx (Rex)
0.1.0 Ball Python (Ali)
0.1.0 Leopard Gecko (Layla)
1.0.0 Panther Gecko (Melman)
0.0.1 Corn Snake (Not sure yet)
0.0.2 Blue Phase Dumpys Tree Frog (Sticky, Squishy)

FunkyRes Aug 13, 2008 12:35 AM

That's going to be a problem.
For a rack, you really want to use a proportional thermostat (IE Herpstat or Helix) - and they typically cost > $100.

The reason is that the heat source (flexwatt or heat tape) should not get full current, and the cheaper on/off thermostats give either full current or no current. Proportionals reduce the amount of current flow the closer you get to target temp, and that is much much better for heat tape and heat cable.

Vendors who say you can use heat tape with on/off thermostats are lying.

What you can do to save some money is use a rheostat - an incandescent dimmer switch.

The rotary kind are best, but typically you have to wire them into your setup yourself. Last time I was at Home Depot - they did not have any that did not require you wire them yourself. Lowe's however had on that you don't have to wire, it's not rotary but a sliding switch - plug it into an outlet and plug your heating device into it. Works well with heating pads, never tried it with heat tape (I have used rotary type with heat tape).
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Arrrggg!
It's like Shalom, but for pirates.
- iCarly

brhaco Aug 13, 2008 08:41 AM

At Daytona, go to the Vision display and talk to them about your needs-I've found their rack to be ENTIRELY satisfactory for our corn collection (over 60 adults), and the per-tub cost is the lowest out there.

I have also used AP racks successfully, but have had a problem with their sweater box size units in that the tolerances of shelve spacing were too loose-I lost a couple of valuable snakes.
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Brad Chambers
WWW.HCU-TX.ORG

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