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Even the look alikes(Scientists doing research DEAD frogs are a good sign that humans are in danger Mon')(we are what we eat ?)maybe not or? I personally feel and do so many Herpists that the Globe is nothing but a Globe.....We are here, lets make the best W/O politics since they havnt worked to my expectance.Burp

I'm going to have to ask you to count backwards from 10.

I need you to look forward and walk heel to toe 10 steps then turn around and do 10 steps......

Now recite all the Kingsnakes found in north America.....LOL

"Now recite all the Kingsnakes found in north America....."

East to West!!
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Diego

SWCHR

I don't think I could do that.
At least not if you want it at the subspecies level - milksnake subspecies really confuse me.

I also don't know anything about prarie/mole king subspecies.

I suppose I better read up on milk snakes.

Hubbs - when is that book coming out?
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Arrrggg!
It's like Shalom, but for pirates.
- iCarly

I got your email and i just want you to know sometimes the NEWS makes me want to VENT (Which always seems to be at cocktail hourLOL)politicians are trying to bury the facts from scientists that these thousands of dead frogs are an alarm of a problem.kinda like we didnt want frogs on that propety anyways.And as i type this morning contractors are destroying Gopher Tortoises here in Central Fl again.
And i read another post on The Bush Admin is laxing on the Endangered animals thing?)So constuction etc.doesnt have Red Tape, Have a happy,Chris

Your right. That stinks! Makes you feel helpless at times.

the idea to protect species is a good concept but I don't think the ESA works well at all. Think of all the animals that need to go on it (a lot) and think of all that have come OFF it based on sound science without political incentives (few). I think a successful ESA would (simply put) list animals, fix the problems and get them off the list.
In the mean time, think of how many restrictions it places on the average citizen, what you can and cannot do on public lands, maybe even private lands where listed species exist. From what I understand, you cannot even move an eastern indigo off the road to prevent it from geting hit without risking penalites.
All the while "progress" get a green flag to go ahead regardless of the law. The more I think about it, it sounds more like a plan that was never meant to work, but a cover to take away from you so "they" can have more land/ resources, hahaha.
anytime you mix politics and science don't expect to see any science in the finished product. in spite of that i DO hope florida does successfully reestablish the flow of the everglades.
Anyhow, the states should be responsible for these issues, not the feds.

my deflated $.02, courtesy of the federal reserve.

daveb
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in the light, you will find the road...

Your right on the button here, The ESA was not designed to work for the animals, but instead work for political supporters. It basically takes the animals out of the hands that can help it and places the animals in the hands of the government(which cannot seem to put on foot in front of the other)

The government does not want the public to have the power to fix the problems. So they came up with something (ESA)that only works for politics and not the public or the animals.

But but but does not the government represent the people??? hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Nope, it represents special interest groups(big ones, not little ones)(think oil)Sorry to be negative, but your right, the ESA is not worth the paper or ink(oil) its written on. No cheers today!