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an alterna phase black & white cal king

FR Aug 15, 2008 04:08 PM

Of course these are crosses between two types of Lampropeltis.

The original cross was a total accident. I was feeding a female milksnake thayeri to a much larger Black & white Cal king(I had good reason) But instead of him eating her, he fell in love and the rest is history.

I kept some of the offspring and here are a couple pics of what they look like.

The first two pics are cross parents;


The next two pics are of one that hatched and one that died full term in the egg(darn it)

The one dead neonate is kinda an alterna phase calking.

These are the only snake crosses I have or have had in many years. And yes, I enjoy them as much as all the other "pure" kings I have. (more eggs cooking) Enjoy

Replies (5)

pyromaniac Aug 15, 2008 05:10 PM

They are interesting for sure.
Three questions:
1. Why were you feeding the one snake to the other, just out of curiosity?
2. Do you think the neonate died in the egg because it was a hybrid, or some other reason?
3. Do you think sub species of kings and milks cross breed in the wild on occasion?

jyohe Aug 15, 2008 07:28 PM

....what was the good reason???????

c'mon.........

????

......they are nice......(first 2 pics).....
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FR Aug 16, 2008 08:20 AM

But the exact reason, right or wrong, is mine alone.

I would not think feeding one snake to another is so far fetched on a kingsnake forum that is full of snake eating species. Or you would or should, have to have a special reason to feed a kingsnake(getula) a snake.

The point is clear, the first cross was an accident, of course the next generation was done on purpose and will continued to be pursued on purpose. Cheers

pyromaniac Aug 16, 2008 08:27 AM

In asking why you were going to feed the one to the other I was not judging you, just interested in why, but I respect your right to make your own decision and not be second guessed. I just thought maybe she had some sort of defect, like she never ate or something.
I do hope you can produce a viable zebra one!

pyromaniac Aug 16, 2008 08:19 AM

I have gone back and looked more closely at the neonate that died. It is too bad it didn't make it; what a unique animal! The markings kind of remind me of a zebra.
I know there is some controversy about mixing the different types of lampropeltis but maybe it is not such a bad thing if animals like the zebra marking one can be produced. Alive, of course!

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