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Premium_Reptiles Aug 16, 2008 04:00 PM

Hi,

We have a discussion going on on a Dutch forum about the Gee Hypo... If you cross a Gee Hypo x Colombian Boa can you still say that the baby´s are Gee Hypo´s?? Or is are the baby´s just ¨ordinary¨ Hypo´s.
In my opinion a real Gee Hypo is a baby where he parents are both Gee Hypo´s.

I am very eager to hear some ideas of you guys.

Thanks in advance

Steve
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Replies (4)

LarM Aug 16, 2008 04:22 PM

Its no longer a true "Gee Line Central American Hypo". In my opinion it becomes a Gee Colombian Orangetail Hypo. Using strictly "Gee Line" Hypo Boas mixed with Colombian Boas will insure that you can call it Gee Line Orangetail I would think. I myself would rather use an established Orangetail Colombian Hypo Line. Those Lines have lost a great deal of the C.A. characteristics. I like Colombian Boas. So that's why my opinion skews in that direction. Its just like any other breeding mixing issue. You mix a Nicaraguan with a Colombian , You really can't call the offspring Colombian Boas anymore. We all go round and round with these type discussions all the time. My first sentence answers the question . There really was no need to elaborate, but what fun is that,LOL
. . . . . Lar M
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EricIvins Aug 16, 2008 07:48 PM

First you have to figure out what a "Gee" or "Orangetail" Hypo means to both the community, and you. If you were to produce offspring with an Orangetail Hypo and a normal Boa, you'd have Orangetail Hypos. Since the majority of Orangetails are product of outcrossing with Colombians, I don't think locality would come into play, as their is no association with locality traits anymore, like say a Hypo Nic, or Sonoran. Even though the Orangetails produced by Jeff himself are still "pure" CA Boas ( if I remember right ). Locality traits also go to the wayside once multiple generations are produced. The generic Hypo tag usually comes into play when you have a Hypo of unknown origin, that is obviously Hypo. Some people really don't feel the need to differentiate the two, as they are both compatible, and the same genetic mutation.
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South Central Herpetological

Slithering_Serpents Aug 19, 2008 01:53 PM

You can most properly say it's a cross between a Gee hypo and a Colombian. You can say it's a hypo that decends from the Gee line, but you better say a little more, like one parent is a Gee etc. You can say it's a Gee hypo X Colombian. What you cannot say is it's a a Gee or a Colombian Gee, you cannot say it's a Gee hypo anymore with Colombian blood, because Gee's are pure CAs. Matybe Mr. Gee will post?
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LarM Aug 20, 2008 02:06 AM

I agree with you,the distinction must be made. Once out crossed with other Boa types such as a Colombian type Boa. The Label "Gee Line Hypo" can't be attached anymore. The Gee Line Hypo is pure C.A.. Once mixed with anything else other than a Gee Line Hypo. That history needs to be attached to the new offspring.
. . . . . Lar M
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