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I have this one Mex mex female that hatched out last month that is really interesting looking. She "had me from hello", so to speak. She wouldn't stay still for any of my photo attempts...so forgive the fuzzy heads.



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Maria

Alaska Reptiles

"Life is like a box of thayeri eggs..."

Maria, that's a very nice looking animal. I can see why you fell for her. Her tripartite head pattern looks like many I have seen in thayeri, which is consistent with the notion that all mexicana diverged from common ancestral stock not all that long ago, in an evolutionary sense. Good luck with her!

Tom

Thanks, Tom.

I agree about the tripartite head pattern resembling leonis. It's also interesting how little divergence from this head pattern occurs in mex mex...at least from what I've seen but I very well could be wrong .
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Maria

Alaska Reptiles

"Life is like a box of thayeri eggs..."

You probably wouldn't want her, you can send her to me, no problem. Nice snake.

Thanks
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Maria

Alaska Reptiles

"Life is like a box of thayeri eggs..."

Maria,

Very nice!!!!

Later,
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CSRAJim

n/p
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Maria

Alaska Reptiles

"Life is like a box of thayeri eggs..."

Wow Maria! Is that female from the granite mex mex line? Awesome blotching and side pattern. Except for the colors it's very unique and almost knoblochi-like. Can you show pics of the parents? Definitely a keeper.
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Jonel M. Lopez

www.spsnakes.com

Thanks, Jonel!

No, she is not from the granite line, which is why I was pretty shocked to see her. Her parents are from Tony Mangini lines and are pictured below; male first. I was really shocked at the amount of speckling on her, not only laterally, but within the nuchal and saddles. I also like that her nuchal doesn't have a black border. It kind of looks like someone took an eraser to her red portions and found speckles underneath .

I have a sibling sister to the dam that will go next year. She has much more squared off dorsal saddles like this hatchling, so the genetics are in there. I've also seen some of Tony's other mex mex progeny that have some lateral speckling, but still not quite to this degree.

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Maria

Alaska Reptiles

"Life is like a box of thayeri eggs..."

Jonel,

This is probably the female you were thinking of. She (and her brother) are still small and I won't plan on breeding her until 2010.

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Maria

Alaska Reptiles

"Life is like a box of thayeri eggs..."

Very nice! It looks like you have an very nice group of animals that you will be working with in the next few years. I'm looking forward on what will be produced from these lines in the future. Man, isn't selective breeding awesome!? Talk to you later.
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Jonel M. Lopez

www.spsnakes.com

Jonel and Maria,
I always thought selective propagation was the key to many 'new' looks in the mexicana group just as Jonel mentioned. I would venture to say that if you keep breeding the splitbanded, busy patterened Mexmex you will evenetually end up with a 'granite' type Mexmex. I would love to see more splitbanded dark phased Mexmex as well as a granite dark phase........

John Lassiter

Story my breed Granit L.mex.mex. you see on my web www.snakes.nafoceno.cz with many pictures.

Spectacular!!!
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Maria

Alaska Reptiles

"Life is like a box of thayeri eggs..."

Fantastic animals; thanks for posting those! I love the black phase as well, and would love to see a lot more of them being bred. If you have contact info for any of the people you sold them to, please let me know
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Maria

Alaska Reptiles

"Life is like a box of thayeri eggs..."

Thank,You Maria.In my bred are this Granit mex.mutation genetically stable.I have this year for sale only one pair(reserved)
Václav Chadima
www.snakes.nafoceno.cz
http://lampropeltis.unas.cz

Second Granit

I love the split bands also.I am very surprised that there aren't more in the hobby cause these things have been around for a good 15 years or so.

Anyway, this is the second time I have posted this and I hope this one doesn't get pulled.

here is one of my males.I need to get a new pic of this guy though cause he is a young adult now.

L8r Shannon

Super nice animals,Shanon

Both are very beautiful. Did they come from the Barker or Bell lines?
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Maria

Alaska Reptiles

"Life is like a box of thayeri eggs..."

Thanks, Jonel. I'd love to add more granite/speckled mex mex to my collection.
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Maria

Alaska Reptiles

"Life is like a box of thayeri eggs..."

I agree with Jonel....'very knoblochi-like'.
Is it from the 'granite' line?

Hi John,

No, she's not. Check the response above from Jonel's post.

I know you have had some killer mex mex in the past and there's a lot of variability within these genes. Maybe you could post some of your past beauties again
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Maria

Alaska Reptiles

"Life is like a box of thayeri eggs..."