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whats the difference between a tremper, bell, and rainwater albino?? n/p

msaomaha Sep 04, 2003 05:28 PM

MS

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joefro Sep 04, 2003 05:51 PM

Yeah, Im curious too. I kind of see the differences but is there any sure way. I mean, are all albinos one of these types? I have an albino that I got a year ago, and he's really nice looking, but I dont know what type he is. Can someone explain??? thanks

Joe

goalielocks Sep 04, 2003 08:40 PM

There is really no way to tell the different types just by looking at them. The only reason they are known to be different morphs is when you breed two of the types together you don't get albinos. You just get normals het for both types. Bells can generally be told apart from the other two types but there is never any certainty. As far as we know all albinos fit into one of these three groups but it is possible that we will find more types in the future. I really don't know much about them but some people are already claiming there is a fourth type. the Leshock albino, although the hype over this unproven morph has somewhat died down.

Justyn Sep 04, 2003 08:52 PM

What hype over the Leshock albino? The Leshock albino was the first albino produced, and I find that very interesting. Don't you?

>>There is really no way to tell the different types just by looking at them. The only reason they are known to be different morphs is when you breed two of the types together you don't get albinos. You just get normals het for both types. Bells can generally be told apart from the other two types but there is never any certainty. As far as we know all albinos fit into one of these three groups but it is possible that we will find more types in the future. I really don't know much about them but some people are already claiming there is a fourth type. the Leshock albino, although the hype over this unproven morph has somewhat died down.
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Justyn
Intense Herpetoculture

goalielocks Sep 04, 2003 09:07 PM

You can't get to it from this site but if you run a search for them you will find some really old Kingsnake leopard gecko forum archives. There is quite a string about them. I have never heard they were the first produced because even in these archive the other types were stated but only a few people had heard of the leshocks. They have still never been proven as a morph to my knowledge and if you try to find any information/pictures of them you will be sitting at the computer a long time. If you have any picture I'd love to see them because the only picture I've found didn't load right on my computer.

Justyn Sep 04, 2003 10:17 PM

Ahh, but none of those people have ever seen a Leshock, or have worked with them. I've talked to quite a few people about Leshock albinos, including Leshock himself. I am pretty sure they are a separate strain. E-mail me and I'll send you a couple photos of a Leshock albino. I'll have more info regarding the Leshock albino on my website in the weeks to come, including the entire history of the strain.
Thanks
Justyn

>>You can't get to it from this site but if you run a search for them you will find some really old Kingsnake leopard gecko forum archives. There is quite a string about them. I have never heard they were the first produced because even in these archive the other types were stated but only a few people had heard of the leshocks. They have still never been proven as a morph to my knowledge and if you try to find any information/pictures of them you will be sitting at the computer a long time. If you have any picture I'd love to see them because the only picture I've found didn't load right on my computer.
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Justyn
Intense Herpetoculture

royalgoldreps Sep 05, 2003 09:32 AM

It is my understanding is that is all ANYONE is ever going to get on that strain. Are they not extinct? Their total absense makes me believe so. Tough to prove them out as a separate strain if none exist. I have heard rumors that Leshocks and Bells are the same.

If anyone knows where I can get a pair of this strain, please contact me. I would be willing to trade substantial LV PA stock for a known, proven pair.

Steven
Royal Gold Reptiles

royalgoldreps Sep 05, 2003 09:37 AM

There are some basic keys to ID'ing them. I am not sure exactly how to describe the visual keys and I have not totally proven it either.

But as you say it is still quite difficult to tell.

Steven

SICKSIDEJACKAL Sep 05, 2003 04:11 PM

so is there any Normal albino's????? Can U breed tang albinos with any tang albino??? or would it have to b from the same something???

goalielocks Sep 05, 2003 07:10 PM

Normal albinos is an oxy moron it doesn't work. The three types really are not true albinos but that's just what we call them. You can't breed two different types together and get albinos. For instance if you breed a bell with a tremper you get normal looking geckos het for both, trampers by rainwaters het for both and so on... If you have an albino sold to you that wasn't labeled as a type you can be reasonably sure it's a tremper because they are the most common. You can expect to pay around $100 for a bell and they are reasonably difficult to find. Rainwaters are only slightly more expensive than trempers but the tremper was the first mass marketed albino so it is sometimes just labeled albino. Unless of course it's a patternless albino in which case you can almost be definetely sure it's rainwater.

SICKSIDEJACKAL Sep 05, 2003 04:11 PM

so is there any Normal albino's????? Can U breed tang albinos with any tang albino??? or would it have to b from the same something???

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