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axanthic price drop

dsofoz Sep 04, 2003 05:31 PM

i know im a bit late but i cant seem to grasp why the price of axanthic ballpythons went from 7000 to 3500 in one year were they selling tha slowly. im not complaining but i was hoping to be able to hatch out a nice 7000 dollar snake ext year and prove out a new blood line of axanthics. i got a pair of 100% hets from repile dungeon last year and i was hoping to prove them out and nock out a big expense on my snow project since i will also be hatching out some nerd line high contrast albinos. i dont mind the fact of the price drop i just would like to know why it droped so drasticly.
thanks for ant replys
Richard

Replies (18)

JaredHorenstein Sep 04, 2003 05:59 PM

Vpi's bloodline is in my opinion the best one out there...and that is why they are still selling for $7500 .

Look at them as adults and that will say alot about the different lines..

Jared H

MorphKingReptile Sep 04, 2003 06:51 PM

They are the Rolls Royce of the Axanthics. We have 1.2 adults and there is no brown on them. They are truly black and silver

Joe and Wes
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BallBoutique Sep 04, 2003 07:21 PM

Any pictures?

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RicK Denmon

Ball Boutique,Inc.

MorphKingReptile Sep 04, 2003 07:25 PM

Go to our Axanthic page. The one female weighs over 1800 grams and is a few years old.

Joe and Wes
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BallBoutique Sep 04, 2003 07:32 PM

How old are the pictures?
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RicK Denmon

Ball Boutique,Inc.

MorphKingReptile Sep 04, 2003 07:40 PM

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BallBoutique Sep 04, 2003 07:50 PM

They are baby pictures my pictures are pictures of a two years old Snake Keepers' line.
I believe each axanthic are good.
No one is better than another. MHO!
I saw two snows in person. I saw one in a video....all stunning.
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RicK Denmon

Ball Boutique,Inc.

MorphKingReptile Sep 04, 2003 08:06 PM

The one girl is over 2 years old on that picture. Yes they look that good.

Joe and Wes
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BallBoutique Sep 04, 2003 08:10 PM

Ok you said 7 months.
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RicK Denmon

Ball Boutique,Inc.

BallBoutique Sep 04, 2003 08:10 PM

Ok you said 7 months.
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RicK Denmon

Ball Boutique,Inc.

MorphKingReptile Sep 04, 2003 08:13 PM

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BallBoutique Sep 04, 2003 07:24 PM

Do you have any other axanthics?
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RicK Denmon

Ball Boutique,Inc.

dsofoz Sep 04, 2003 08:08 PM

from what ive seen of the dam of this line she was about 4' and as nice and black and silver as the vpi line so depending on what the genetics are and what the adults look like i may still be able to ask 6-7K for the babies if anybody has seen the animals that reptile dungeon has coud you give me an opinion.
thanks
Richard

Vtherpster Sep 04, 2003 10:54 PM

np

dsofoz Sep 04, 2003 11:53 PM

the sk line has gone down to 3500 or so their website advertizes.

Vtherpster Sep 05, 2003 10:49 AM

of certain azanthic lines indicated some lack of integrity in the quality of the line. This comment was agreed too by RDR in that series of threads.Certainly judging by the snowball produced by the SK line azanthic that the integrity of the quality of this line should not be in question.
I also believe on the RDR site at some point that it was mentioned that these animals (azanthics) are difficult to sell at that price and it is a bad business practice to produce animals that are hard to sell(overstocked). So he would not produce as many azanthics as he possibly could.
Perhaps with the 1 in 16 chance of getting a snow if at all after producing double hets seems to be enough of an obstacle to the average buyer that a price reduction in one of the important components seems to be the correct marketing evolution by some breeders to insure a future market in this very exciting project.
Remember also that certain lines such as VPI stay high in price regardless. The albino price drop last year was not observed by VPI. Probably because they know they will sell what they produce because of the prestige their VPI moniker adds to the sale of animals produced by their lines. Perhaps other marketing strategies devised to improve the general publics ability to produce morphs at a more realistic cost is the motivation for some breeders to drop their pricing. This particular breeder has the same prestige IMHO as does VPI and Joliff lines when it comes to this project. The first snow is all the evidence of that anybody should need.I welcome the price reduction.

BallBoutique Sep 05, 2003 02:16 PM

Well said!
This axanthic battle should be mute. I hope to have them all in a few years with the animals I have in my possession now. I am approaching the view as neutral. I am not promoting one over the other. I am thinking that the struggle going on with the axanthics is some breeders are trying to claim that what line they are breeding is the best! [perhaps for sales MHO]

I have a het girl and axanthic male from SK line.
I have a dh for snow VPI line
I have two 66% het males VPI line.
And 4 possible dh snow Jolliff line. [hoping to get one axanthic]
The snow project has just begun. Only Davis produced this year - as far as I know. One in 16 is a long shot but I can't wait to produce one. And can't wait to produce one from each strain. I believe Davis has the SK line and might be the first for all three. My first shot at a snow may be the Jolliff line. Who knows this is what keeps me going!!!!
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RicK Denmon

Ball Boutique,Inc.

DenverTom Sep 05, 2003 12:50 PM

I think that a big reason axanthics stayed up in price for awhile is that people were going nuts over the snow project. With more and more leucistics being hatched out, some of us believe that the big breeders are getting closer to figuring out the pattern of inheritance on them. Based on that assumption, not all, but some of the wind would be knocked out of the axanthic sail. I know some of you are going to say that I am wrong because people still want genetically striped axanthics and spider axanthics on top of the "normal" axanthics, and those people are right. However, something has to explain the srop in the prices.

Denver Tom

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