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Chris Allen: the story behind your reds?

bruce_y Aug 19, 2008 02:06 PM

Hey Chris-

I'm new to bearded dragons, but even I have heard about Chris Allen Reds a seemingly long time ago. What's the story behind your morph?

Did you find several dragons with unusual color and prove them out?

How big did your operation get (it seems the genes from your reds have reached thousands of dragons)?

Also, how did you start out in the hobby? With beardies or other herps?

I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to hear how such a popular morph came to be!

Thanks,
Bruce

Replies (15)

mlevoy Aug 19, 2008 04:51 PM

I was fortunate enough to acquire one of Scar's offspring who is incredible!!!
I too would love to know

chris allen Aug 19, 2008 08:06 PM

Hey Bruce, Id love to answer your questions.

I'm new to bearded dragons, but even I have heard about Chris Allen Reds a seemingly long time ago. What's the story behind your morph?
I really don't think of it as a morph, but it was just a good cross that I did that produced some really nice reds. The mother was L.I. Red and the father Scar, for those that remember.

Did you find several dragons with unusual color and prove them out?
I think reds are really the hardest color to produce. Also, what one person considers red, may be different from another. I think the crossing I did were not only red, but alot of them showed white on their spikes, head, legs, etc which when combined with the red, made them really pop. I attached the one pic from my gallery showing what I mean. In the group pic the one on the top right is a red x red and you can see how drastically different that dragon is even compared to all the other high color(at the time)dragons.

How big did your operation get (it seems the genes from your reds have reached thousands of dragons)?
I was just a small fish really. Its funny seeing how many dragons like you said are labeled with this or that, when in actuality I could have at the most produced 1500 dragons over the 3 years that I really bred. Not many at all compared to what some do. And figure maybe 2-300 were the red x red crossing if that.

Also, how did you start out in the hobby? With beardies or other herps?
I have had many hobbies to be honest with you.....its an Allen thing! My father, my uncle, me.........it just doesnt stop. But, one thing that has always remained a constant since I was a younger kid is reptiles. It really started with a boa, then milksnakes, kingsnakes, ratsnakes, etc.....on to pythons, boas, chameleons, tegus, monitors etc etc etc and of course dragons.

I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to hear how such a popular morph came to be!
Hope I didnt ramble too much. Feel free to email me anytime if you have more questions. chrisallen.nj@comcast.net

Thanks,
Bruce

Paradon Aug 19, 2008 11:29 PM

Are those dragons in the picture anything like the sanfire dragons. I think the sandfire is absolutely gorgeous. Where did you the red dragon from? Is it from the Sandfire Dragon Ranch?

chris allen Aug 20, 2008 05:04 PM

Well in the pic they are all different crosses that I produced. The real red dragon was one of my red x red babies from Scar. I think alot of dragons especially then came from various Sandfire stock.

bruce_y Aug 20, 2008 11:30 AM

Thanks for your response. You clearly have a lot of fans and influenced many breeders. I'm looking forward to seeing your new projects!

Thanks again,
Bruce

chris allen Aug 19, 2008 08:14 PM

I have been aquiring some dragons and have recently joined back into the dragon "hobby"!

I have talked with and dealt with some really great people and some of the dragons now are just phenomenal. I had to try to go undercover to ensure I got a few of the dragons I really wanted, but that didnt last for too long and my "cover" was blown!! LOL.

If anyone is looking for quality dragons right now, email me and I can definately point you in the right direction and drop a few names that I would without a doubt recommend.

mlevoy Aug 19, 2008 09:32 PM

Well, I would like to say welcome back!!! Will you be breeding again? I will be waiting in line to get one if you are lol!

chris allen Aug 19, 2008 09:40 PM

It is going to take time though. I may be able to jump in and breed some more normal looking dragons soon, but I am going to do it the same way I did back when I started my last group. Pick out the best babies I can find, raise them, and breed the best out of the bunch.
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mlevoy Aug 19, 2008 09:44 PM

Will you be concentrating on a specific morph/color? Are you getting into leatherbacks or trans etc?
It's exciting having you back in the breeding biz!!!
Scooter (Scar's offspring) is one of my more beautiful males...

chris allen Aug 19, 2008 09:48 PM

Well now thats all top secret!!!!

Id love to see a pic of your Scooter. If you could, email it to me if you have one chrisallen.nj@comcast.net

mlevoy Aug 19, 2008 09:51 PM

I will take a nice one of him tomorrow and send it to you!
He is one of my favorites! He has the best personality too!

mlevoy Aug 19, 2008 10:03 PM

I just emailed you pics of Scooter. Let me know what you think!

bruce_y Aug 20, 2008 01:29 AM

Sounds like a stunner...would love to check it out!

mlevoy Aug 20, 2008 08:36 AM

Here is a link for 2 pics of Scooter. I was fortunate to get him last year as a proven breeder. He is the offspring of Chris Allen's Scar. I was very fortunate...and he has the best personality too!!!
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Georgia Bearded Dragons Aug 26, 2008 12:51 AM

HEE HEE HEE Chris, I know how your "cover" got blown, but I will keep it a secret!!! My lips are sealed
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