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Final results from my surprise clutch

wink0083 Aug 20, 2008 01:24 PM

Well, everyone who hatched has now been fed at least once except for the one wierd looking normal(my wifes bringing me home a live pinky to try for him). I had posted around a week ago with pictures of him and the concensus seemed to be that he was a normal motley in shed. He's shed, but he still looks quite different than any of the other normal motleys. They are all pretty much exact copies of each other with minor pattern changes. His color is...I don't know, monotone? Anyway, he looks normal, but different. I think I'm going to keep him until next year to see what he looks like as he grows.

For any other genetics geeks out there, here's my final tally...
Motley het for? cross Motley het for?

19 eggs laid, dropped one slug.
2 eggs started to rot 3 weeks in, removed.
All are motley
6 non-hatching eggs contained 2 snows, 3 normals, 1 anery
11 live babies
2 ghost
1 anery
1 amel
6 normal
1 odd looking normal?

Below is the odd ball motley and one of the normal motleys

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Corns, Leopard Geckos, Amazon Tree Boas, Red Tailed Boas, Ball Pythons, Mississippi Map Turtles, Bearded Dragons.

Replies (7)

wink0083 Aug 20, 2008 01:27 PM

The amel is a spaz and would NOT hold still for a good picture.

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Corns, Leopard Geckos, Amazon Tree Boas, Red Tailed Boas, Ball Pythons, Mississippi Map Turtles, Bearded Dragons.

tspuckler Aug 20, 2008 03:19 PM

I dig the spots going down the ghost motley's back - you've got a nice pattern on that one!

Tim

xblackheart Aug 20, 2008 05:14 PM

well, both your snakes are het for Hypo, anery, amel (anery amel=snow).
the oddball may be a hypo motley. Is it a little brighter than the picture shows? I have hypo motleys that when photographed, turn out as dark as a normal. Really depends on the lighting.
You got a ghost (anery hypo), so there is definitely hypo there.
Congrats on the great feeding, nice clutch
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wink0083 Aug 20, 2008 08:28 PM

I was really surprised that I had no obvious hypos in the clutch out of 17 identified offspring. If the oddball is a hypo (and the picture is very close in color to reality), it's the most drab looking hypo I've ever seen. It does seem to be low on the grays/blacks, but given a couple months to grow/shed, only time will tell.
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Corns, Leopard Geckos, Amazon Tree Boas, Red Tailed Boas, Ball Pythons, Mississippi Map Turtles, Bearded Dragons.

draybar Aug 21, 2008 04:38 PM

>>I was really surprised that I had no obvious hypos in the clutch out of 17 identified offspring. If the oddball is a hypo (and the picture is very close in color to reality), it's the most drab looking hypo I've ever seen. It does seem to be low on the grays/blacks, but given a couple months to grow/shed, only time will tell.
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>>Corns, Leopard Geckos, Amazon Tree Boas, Red Tailed Boas, Ball Pythons, Mississippi Map Turtles, Bearded Dragons.

actually I lightened the photos that first one looks like a normal motley and the second snake pictured looks simply like a normal.
Are you sure it is a motley?
can you post pics of their bellies?
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"Resistance is futile"
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Draybars Snakes

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wink0083 Aug 22, 2008 08:36 AM

Both of the parents were phenotypic motleys and the second one does have a solid cream colored belly. I just fed them all last night so I don't want to disturb them right now, but it is definetely a motley and other than the fact that that particular one's circles stop about a quarter of the way down, it looks just like the other normal colored motleys in the clutch. The good news is that the non-matching one finally fed on its own last night so everything seems to be in the clear (fingers crossed that it doesn't regurgitate or anything). After it's gotten to its second shed, I'll try to remember to post again. I don't know, maybe it's the normal motley and the others are all oddballs? This is my first clutch of non-wild type corns so the fancy looking babies is still new to me. I used another dealer's page to compare my hatchlings to and the only one that doesn't match any of theirs is that first motley. I'll just have to be patient and see what he looks like as he grows.

The first picture is an old picture of the mother, the last is the father.

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Corns, Leopard Geckos, Amazon Tree Boas, Red Tailed Boas, Ball Pythons, Mississippi Map Turtles, Bearded Dragons.

draybar Aug 22, 2008 04:32 PM

>>Both of the parents were phenotypic motleys and the second one does have a solid cream colored belly. I just fed them all last night so I don't want to disturb them right now, but it is definetely a motley and other than the fact that that particular one's circles stop about a quarter of the way down, it looks just like the other normal colored motleys in the clutch. The good news is that the non-matching one finally fed on its own last night so everything seems to be in the clear (fingers crossed that it doesn't regurgitate or anything). After it's gotten to its second shed, I'll try to remember to post again. I don't know, maybe it's the normal motley and the others are all oddballs? This is my first clutch of non-wild type corns so the fancy looking babies is still new to me. I used another dealer's page to compare my hatchlings to and the only one that doesn't match any of theirs is that first motley. I'll just have to be patient and see what he looks like as he grows.
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>>The first picture is an old picture of the mother, the last is the father.
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OK
I guess time will tell but it is eaither just a lighter normal or a hypo. With the known hypo that would be the most logical direction.
Hypo motley.
Keep us posted. It will be nice to see how they all progress.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)
Draybars Snakes

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