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captive bred 2008 santa rita triaspis

hardcoresb3 Aug 20, 2008 06:48 PM

Hello all,

I've never posted here before but I've always been into Arizona western green rats and Baja rat snakes. This year marks my first year producing western green rats and hopefully Bajas as well. My Bajas won't pip for another month but my triaspis started hatching yesterday. Special thanks to Mike Stefani (hope I spelled it right) for answering quite a few of my husbandry questions with these awesome snakes. This was my first year attempting to breed all my adults that I have been raising up since they were hatchlings.

Replies (18)

dustyrhoads Aug 20, 2008 07:05 PM

Congratulations to you. You must be very proud.

Dusty Rhoads
Suboc.com

tbrock Aug 20, 2008 07:29 PM

Wow! Big congrats - they look great! I am a big fan of Senticolis triaspis intermedia myself, although I don't keep any (yet). I am looking forward to seeing your post when the Bajas start hatching.

-Toby Brock
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Southwestern Center for Herpetological Research

lbrat Aug 20, 2008 09:20 PM

Sweet hatch and good luck on the bajas.
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"Upon Thy Belly Thou Shalt Go"

BillMcgElaphe Aug 21, 2008 08:00 AM

Congrats with those.
They look great!

Question: do your breeders periodically prefer different food, or do they stay on mice?
The reason I ask is that I have a Chiricahua male that changes about every 1 1/2 months from mice to quail to rat pups!!!
I think it's just this individual... Definite maybe!!!
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Regards, Bill McGighan

Mark Banczak Aug 21, 2008 08:44 AM

Bill, My Triaspis have always stayed true to rodents. Sounds like you got a guy with some spunk.

ratsnakehaven Aug 22, 2008 01:27 PM

>>Bill, My Triaspis have always stayed true to rodents. Sounds like you got a guy with some spunk.

Hi, guys!

The Chiri green could be a little different from the SRM green...different range and all. But small birds and eggs should be on the grocery list...

PS: My two yr. old pair of SRM greenies have only eaten mice, so far.

TC

hardcoresb3 Aug 24, 2008 11:21 AM

Hello.....my snakes never eat anything besides rodents. They eat live or frozen thawed mice with my females taking more of a liking to the f/t rats.

BillMcgElaphe Aug 24, 2008 06:04 PM

Thanks for the resonses, guys.
Just as I thought... I have a wierdo!!!

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Regards, Bill McGighan

Mark Banczak Aug 21, 2008 08:46 AM

I know that was a special clutch for you. There very interesting snakes. Greenies are dear to my heart and I always love seeing one in the wild.
Bajas are high on my list too and I expect to get a pair - I just haven't pulled the trigger yet. Please be sure to post when they hatch. I'll be anxious to see them.

Andrew Godambe Aug 22, 2008 06:00 AM

Steve - can you give me a call?

ratsnakehaven Aug 22, 2008 01:39 PM

>>Hello all,
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>>I've never posted here before but I've always been into Arizona western green rats and Baja rat snakes. This year marks my first year producing western green rats and hopefully Bajas as well. My Bajas won't pip for another month but my triaspis started hatching yesterday. Special thanks to Mike Stefani (hope I spelled it right) for answering quite a few of my husbandry questions with these awesome snakes. This was my first year attempting to breed all my adults that I have been raising up since they were hatchlings.
>>

Very cool post and congratulations on the hatchlings!!

Can you post a few more details...like how many eggs, how many hatched, how old the adults were, how long the incubation was, and/or how you incubated them? I think there's lots of folks that might benefit from your successful techniques, including me.

Many thanks...Terry Cox/Ratsnake Haven

antelope Aug 22, 2008 08:05 PM

Totally great! Can't wait to see the bajas as well, and what Terry said! Mo' info, please!
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Todd Hughes

1snakeman1 Aug 23, 2008 05:42 PM

hello and congrads on your successful breeding of your triaspis and also you baja rats.. I would like to talk with you about these so how can I get a hold of you?
Thanks Bill

jhnscrg Aug 23, 2008 07:46 PM

Cool! How about a pic of the proud parents?

Matthew

hardcoresb3 Aug 24, 2008 11:41 AM

Hello all and thanks for the kind words. This particular clutch was originally 6 eggs that were layed. After about a week 2 went bad and the other 4 went all the way to hatching at the 68th day. I incubated the eggs at 82.6-83.1 the entire time. I kept the humidity at almost 100 percent in the egg box with the eggs themselves being on a slightly moist pile of vermiculite. I used a similar method with these green rat eggs as I do with my collared lizard and Mexican beaded lizard eggs. I have always had great success hatching out my lizard species so I figured why not use the same technique with the snakes as well. I wish I would have had a larger clutch of green rats to work with because I have read they can lay quite a bit more. The female that layed this clutch is close to 5 feet in length. My Baja rats on the other hand were more productive and those females were a little smaller in total length. I have a few unrelated clutches of those cooking with a total of 15 eggs. Three more weeks and I'll find out how those do with the hatching process as well. I'm very excited !!

Mark Banczak Aug 24, 2008 01:18 PM

I'm not really sure that 6 isn't a good size clutch. Of the folks I know whom have hatched Triaspis, 7 is the largest clutch. I'd be interested in hearing from folks who have larger clutches. That intrigues me.

dustyrhoads Aug 24, 2008 01:39 PM

>>I'm not really sure that 6 isn't a good size clutch. Of the folks I know whom have hatched Triaspis, 7 is the largest clutch. I'd be interested in hearing from folks who have larger clutches. That intrigues me.

Nine eggs is the record from Schulz. Six is great.

DR

ratsnakehaven Aug 25, 2008 09:59 AM

>>>>I'm not really sure that 6 isn't a good size clutch. Of the folks I know whom have hatched Triaspis, 7 is the largest clutch. I'd be interested in hearing from folks who have larger clutches. That intrigues me.
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>>Nine eggs is the record from Schulz. Six is great.
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>>DR

I agree, 6 to 9 sounds like a good clutch size with this species (I haven't bred them, yet.) I think you're lucky to get four babies your first try. Maybe the two bad ones were from infertile eggs? Can't wait til mine get to be adults.

I'd like to try Bajas someday too. Good luck with them, and look forward to your post...

Regards...Terry Cox/Ratsnake Haven

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