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Sharp strain albino history...

Jonathan_Brady Aug 24, 2008 03:29 AM

There's been some conflicting info posted lately about the Sharp strains so I took the opportunity to ask Brian, in person at Daytona what happened with the offspring of the very first breeding.

That breeding was the original Sharp albino animal paired with a het for Kahl albino to see if the genes were compatible. Obviously they weren't and this is what happened with the babies which were het Sharp albino, 50% possible het Kahl albino.

Approximately 17 babies were born and the males were distributed as normals into the pet trade. The females were held back by Brian and bred to produce additional Sharps for the future.

So the possibility DEFINITELY exists that there are Sharp hets, albinos, and sunglows that are also het for Kahl strain out there (if it's genetically possible). The chances are low as the held back females only have a 50% chance of being het Kahl, but they are real.

Just thought I'd share. Thanks!
jb
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Jonathan Brady
*You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.*

Replies (5)

Bighurt Aug 24, 2008 10:35 AM

>>There's been some conflicting info posted lately about the Sharp strains so I took the opportunity to ask Brian, in person at Daytona what happened with the offspring of the very first breeding.
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>>That breeding was the original Sharp albino animal paired with a het for Kahl albino to see if the genes were compatible. Obviously they weren't and this is what happened with the babies which were het Sharp albino, 50% possible het Kahl albino.
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>>Approximately 17 babies were born and the males were distributed as normals into the pet trade. The females were held back by Brian and bred to produce additional Sharps for the future.
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>>So the possibility DEFINITELY exists that there are Sharp hets, albinos, and sunglows that are also het for Kahl strain out there (if it's genetically possible). The chances are low as the held back females only have a 50% chance of being het Kahl, but they are real.
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>>Just thought I'd share. Thanks!
>>jb
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>>Jonathan Brady
>>*You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.*

Seeing that most people understand that Sharp's and Kahl's are not genetically compatible it is likely none of the offspring from the original females were breed to Kahl strain if sold as a Sharp Albino.

So the possibility of the Kahl strain being seen in a Sharp animal becomes less and less with each generation.

To a point that it doesn't matter...
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Jeremy Payne
JB Reptile
Boa Morph's since 2007

1.0 Snow "Khal"
0.2 Triple Het Moonglow "Khal"
0.1 Orange Tail Hypo Het Leopard
1.1 Double Het "Sharp" Snow
1.0 Ghost
0.1 Possible Super Hypo
0.1 DH Ghost
1.1 "Khal" Albino
1.0 Hypomelenistic
1.3 Pastel Hypo
0.1 Suriname/Columbian cross
0.1 Anerthrystic

Slithering_Serpents Aug 26, 2008 06:14 PM

Both versions say he sold them as normals
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Ruben14 Aug 24, 2008 02:27 PM

Thats just weird,cause if he sent this e-mail in regards to the very same question,

"Copy/paste from an email from Brian Sharp...

"I bred a het Kahl strain male to my albino female, produced 17 babies all normal looking. Because I didn’t want to create a genetic nightmare, I made sure those animals were never used for breeding and sold them as normal, scattered to the four winds in the pet trade."

So according to the man who bred them, they were not sold as het Sharps!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling"

and theres also the story that supposed to be from him that they were all put down, then which one is true? I just want to know and am not trying to stir crap up. The one he told Jonathan kinda doesn't make sense cause if he sold the males to pet shops so they wouldn't find their way back to the morph market,why did he keep the females for his own breedings? Was he planing on keep all of them? Thats what i'm trying to figure out?

Heres an old pic of an 03 Sharp just for fun!

rainbowsrus Aug 24, 2008 02:47 PM

I can only vouch for my conversations/emails with Brian but if those females were held back they could wreak havic with some folks breeding plans. If two of those Sharp animals (het Kahl) ever met, all the albino babies would be identified as Sharp albinos but some could be Kahl. Depending on the breeding, posibly even Kahl NOT het Sharp..........uugghhhhh!!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

LarM Aug 24, 2008 03:33 PM

That's also in the realm of possibilties Dave in the genetic so called lottery.
. . . . . . Lar M
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