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Hey everyone, this is my first time posting in the boa section. I never thought I'd own a boa...but came home from Daytona today with TWO. I am totally in love with these little babies and can't wait to see them grow up. My albino boy was born was an enlarged right eye, so it has been removed. He's a pet only and was picked up from the wonderful people, Rick & Beverly Richardson at "Rick's Serpent Rescue, Etc." The female salmon (?) is from my buddy Mike who was at BCI's table.

Albino Male, "One-Eyed Willy":

Salmon Female:

And because she's beautiful, my little pastel ball python girl I picked up from Rusty's Balls:

So...how'd YOU do?
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0.1 American Bulldog - Maui
0.1 Shiba Inu - Mako
1.0 Pit Bull - Magnum
2.0 White DSH Cats - Lucaya (Luke) & Fiji
1.1 Ferrets - Demolition & Derby
1.0 Sunrise Corn Snake - Tequila
1.0 Orange Bearded Dragon - Orin
1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko - Ed
0.1 Spider ball python
0.1 Pastel ball python
0.3 Normal ball python

Why would you get a male and female if you are not planning on breeding? Are the boas ALWAYS going to be kept in seperate enclosures? One eyed boas should NEVER be used to breed.

Gee...thanks for the nice comments. As I stated before, the albino is a pet and WILL NOT be used for breeding. I picked up the female as it was a great price, she too, is just a pet. No, I have no plans on them being in the same enclosure, especially not when they are adults. I'm not a child and understand that adult snakes will procreate...one-eyed or not. I have a male and female dog too, they won't be bred (they are sterilized). I have a male and female cornsnake, they won't be bred. I have no interest in breeding animals...too much work. I just like good looking, healthy pets.

Now, anything nice to say? I'm kind of sorry I posted now...as I really just wanted to show off my new pets, and I get ridiculed by the only person who responds. Thanks for the lovely welcome to the boa community.
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0.1 American Bulldog - Maui
0.1 Shiba Inu - Mako
1.0 Pit Bull - Magnum
2.0 White DSH Cats - Lucaya (Luke) & Fiji
1.1 Ferrets - Demolition & Derby
1.0 Sunrise Corn Snake - Tequila
1.0 Orange Bearded Dragon - Orin
1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko - Ed
0.1 Spider ball python
0.2 Pastel ball python
0.2 Normal ball python
0.1 Salmon boa
1.0 Albino boa

This is Rick's Serpent Rescue,
This snake and his brother were rescued from being put in the freezer. I spent the money to have the eyes surgically removed and they were sold as "PETS ONLY" only to find a good home for them. You negetive and sarcatic people should keep your opinions to yourself, as you have hurt a pretty young ladies enthusiasm; for I have never seen anyone so happy about having a new snake as a pet.
Rick Richardson

You are coming through ALOT more aggressive than I was. In fact I was not posting anything negative. It seems that “Why would you get a male and female if you are not planning on breeding?” now means “Liar, you are attempting to breed and flood the market with one-eyed albinos”? Cause it seems like that is what is being taken out of the question. I supposed if I ask “how is your dog” that would mean “I think there is something wrong with it and that is why I’m asking”. No one was “ridiculed” and the only opinion posted was a correct one. How about we learn to take something for what it is.

Not to be rude, but I clearly stated in my first post that he's a pet only (as is the female) and you questioned it. How's that for taking something how it is?
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0.1 American Bulldog - Maui
0.1 Shiba Inu - Mako
1.0 Pit Bull - Magnum
2.0 White DSH Cats - Lucaya (Luke) & Fiji
1.1 Ferrets - Demolition & Derby
1.0 Sunrise Corn Snake - Tequila
1.0 Orange Bearded Dragon - Orin
1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko - Ed
0.1 Spider ball python
0.2 Pastel ball python
0.2 Normal ball python
0.1 Salmon boa
1.0 Albino boa

VRF,
You have a way of getting things wrong and if you have a problem with the fact that this snake was not put down, I don't. First of all the labs that came back on this snake and his brother were negative to them being a gene factor. Secondly it was sold as a pet and I still have it's brother. I don't plan on breeding him either, but my wife and I believe that any animal who can lead a good life despite it's handicap, should have the chance. I have 94 snakes and several have handicaps, but they have a good life with us. With people like you it's just a business, it's not for us. All of our snakes are pets first; then breeders.

Rick's Serpent Rescue, etc.

VRF,
You have a way of getting things wrong and if you have a problem with the fact that this snake was not put down, I don't.

What is up with you guys coming to all these conclusions? When did I ever state anything about putting anything down? You have your way of intrepeting a question all twisted up.

First of all the labs that came back on this snake and his brother were negative to them being a gene factor. Secondly it was sold as a pet and I still have it's brother. I don't plan on breeding him either, but my wife and I believe that any animal who can lead a good life despite it's handicap, should have the chance. I have 94 snakes and several have handicaps, but they have a good life with us. With people like you it's just a business, it's not for us.

See, this is what is wrong here. You don't know me but instead of asking me a question as I was attempting to, you make statements as if you know my values? For someone to come off feeling extremely offended by what they felt were inappropriate questions and respond with even more negative comments and assumptions just makes you a HUGE hypocrite. How about you ask me a reasonable question/s and I promise you I won't easily get offended and respond with an attack, instead I will answer your questions so that you can get a better understanding of who I am and what my values are and then you will be able to come to a more accurate conclusion.

All of our snakes are pets first; then breeders.

Rick's Serpent Rescue, etc.

Hey R & B! Willy is doing great! He ate a hopper mouse for me today with no problems. Thanks again for giving me the opportunity to take him home. I love this little guy!
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0.1 American Bulldog - Maui
0.1 Shiba Inu - Mako
1.0 Pit Bull - Magnum
2.0 White DSH Cats - Lucaya (Luke) & Fiji
1.1 Ferrets - Demolition & Derby
1.0 Sunrise Corn Snake - Tequila
1.0 Orange Bearded Dragon - Orin
1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko - Ed
0.1 Spider ball python
0.2 Pastel ball python
0.2 Normal ball python
0.1 Salmon boa
1.0 Albino boa

Hi SugarFox,

I'm glad you have him and I know he has a good home. Beverly and I firmly believe that if an animal can have a good life despite it's disablities, it should have that chance. Good luck with little "One-Eye Willie" and keep us informed.

Thanx,
Rick Richardson
Rick's Serpent Rescue,etc.
727-726-8445
RickRick6544@yahoo.com

congrats! thats awesome that you came over to the boa side. that is a really nice looking hypo.

One eye or two he's still a very good looking albino and I think it's great that he'll be able to grow up and enjoy life despite his disability and not just be put down. The eye's not even going effect his behavior. Maybe you could get him a little patch and he can really be one eyed Willy for Halloween! The female Hypo isn't too shaby either.

Welcome to the community and don't worry about the first response. The one eyed issue is a big deal with the albinos and some people feel stronger then others about the subject but you clearly stated he will not be bred so it sounds like your already aware of the repercussions. Plus,technically he's not a one eyed genetic defect. I've seen albinos born with the buldgy eye in both Strains, whicn is an inffection most of the time and with tratment right away the eye can totally get better and you could never even tell it was buldgy at one time. Now, it would be a different story if it was born without the eye, but he had two when born.

Goodluck with them and keep us updated with pix!

Yes, he did have two eyes when he was born. I didn't see pictures of the eye, so I don't know if it could have been saved or not. I know that there was one more in the litter that also had a bulging eye, but the breeder said they are keeping that one. I didn't know it was caused by an infection. Anyway, I love him just the same and he will have a great home here. The one eye thing doesn't seem to bother him one bit and I'm going to pick up some hopper mice this evening for their first meals (with me). Thanks so much for the info
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0.1 American Bulldog - Maui
0.1 Shiba Inu - Mako
1.0 Pit Bull - Magnum
2.0 White DSH Cats - Lucaya (Luke) & Fiji
1.1 Ferrets - Demolition & Derby
1.0 Sunrise Corn Snake - Tequila
1.0 Orange Bearded Dragon - Orin
1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko - Ed
0.1 Spider ball python
0.2 Pastel ball python
0.2 Normal ball python
0.1 Salmon boa
1.0 Albino boa

No Problem,
the swollen eye thing can't always be helped but I have seen them successfully treated before. The funny thing about it is,99.9% of the time it's always the right eye if it's only one eye thats effected. Weird huh? Take care and enjoy your new Boas. I need to go grab a hopper myself,thanks for the reminder!

Hi and welcome to the forum. Glad to see "One-eyed Willy" has gone to a good home. So often I hear of the "not perfect" ones being put down. I've always worked to adopt out any with defects that don't affect their quality of life.

Like Ruben said, don't let the first reply get you down, you did say you were not going to breed them and therefore is NOT an issue!!! One thing I will agree with is - to not once, not ever put them together. Not saying you would, just don't give em a chance for even a quickie

For only having one eye, Willie sure does look nice and the hypo is no slouch either, looks like she has some personality looking right at the camera. Or would that be 'tude?

And your pastel BP looks nice also!!!

Congrats on your new additions!!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

It is funny to see people get so easily offended off REGULAR questions. People want to pretend as if people have not purchased one eyed albinos to breed and reproduce in the past? I don't remember writing “you’re stupid” or anything close to that so just calm down. Look it is pretty simple, some people will have 2 boas that are “not” supposed to ever breed, then “somehow” those boas end up producing a litter and we end up hearing a story about “I only kept them together for a minute while I was cleaning the cage”. So the people that are saying to you don’t worry about the first post would also be the same people trying to slap you in the hand if that were to happen.

I went back and re-read my first post and saw nothing wrong with it. I asked 2 questions, one which was reinforced by one poster and made one statement which none of the other posters would disagree with. If there was nothing to hide then there is no reason you should have jumped on the defensive, in other words calm down, they were just legit questions.

Glad to see you're getting some humor from my post. Put it this way...say you make something completely clear in a post, doesn't matter what, and someone comes right behind you and questions it.

I'm positive I made it clear that these two were just pets. Then you come behind me with this:

"Why would you get a male and female if you are not planning on breeding? Are the boas ALWAYS going to be kept in seperate enclosures?"

Really, was that necessary? Do you really think you're important enough to need to know why I CHOSE to bring home a male and female?

Sure, I'm new to boas, but that doesn't mean I don't have the best intentions in mind. So I bought a male and a female boa, why do YOU care what gender snakes I bring home? Maybe I liked the way she looked, maybe I just like to have more than one, maybe I have a friend who breeds boas and would like to use her in their program. I understand the plight of one-eyed albino's and do not want to add to that.

What I am trying to get at here is you should really mind your own business, and practice what you preach:

"How about we learn to take something for what it is."

I am pretty sure "He's a pet only..." couldn't have been any more straight forward than that.

To the rest, thanks for positive comments. I hope to continue learning about these guys and give them the best life possible.

Have a good night.
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0.1 American Bulldog - Maui
0.1 Shiba Inu - Mako
1.0 Pit Bull - Magnum
2.0 White DSH Cats - Lucaya (Luke) & Fiji
1.1 Ferrets - Demolition & Derby
1.0 Sunrise Corn Snake - Tequila
1.0 Orange Bearded Dragon - Orin
1.0 Albino Leopard Gecko - Ed
0.1 Spider ball python
0.2 Pastel ball python
0.2 Normal ball python
0.1 Salmon boa
1.0 Albino boa

Glad to see you're getting some humor from my post. Put it this way...say you make something completely clear in a post, doesn't matter what, and someone comes right behind you and questions it.

First, you are not the first to post boas stating that they were not going to breed. Some people have posted exactly what you did and then produced boas.

I'm positive I made it clear that these two were just pets. Then you come behind me with this:

"Why would you get a male and female if you are not planning on breeding? Are the boas ALWAYS going to be kept in seperate enclosures?"

Again, read my post above.

Really, was that necessary? Do you really think you're important enough to need to know why I CHOSE to bring home a male and female?

Next, you posted in a forum. Am I not free to ask questions about animals you post in a public forum?

Sure, I'm new to boas, but that doesn't mean I don't have the best intentions in mind. So I bought a male and a female boa, why do YOU care what gender snakes I bring home? Maybe I liked the way she looked, maybe I just like to have more than one, maybe I have a friend who breeds boas and would like to use her in their program. I understand the plight of one-eyed albino's and do not want to add to that.

You are right, I don't know why you purchased a male and female, THAT IS WHY I ASKED. Lets look at the first question "Why would you get a male and female if you are not planning on breeding? Does that really stab at your heart? Like YOU said, how do I know what you are doing with them? THAT IS WHY I ASKED. Next question "Are the boas ALWAYS going to be kept in seperate enclosures?" That is a very legit question. and like I said in my previous post, I seriously do not believe anyone on this post would disgree with my comment.

What I am trying to get at here is you should really mind your own business, and practice what you preach:

Mind my own business? Did you forget this is a forum? Why would you post ANYTHING in a forum knowing that you may hear something you may not like? This forum is the business of anyone who frequents it.

"How about we learn to take something for what it is."

Yes! A question.

I am pretty sure "He's a pet only..." couldn't have been any more straight forward than that.

Of course it is not your fault that other people have stated "He's a pet only..." and later produced. But I'm not psychic.

To the rest, thanks for positive comments. I hope to continue learning about these guys and give them the best life possible.

Maybe next time, instead of jumping the gun, you could just ask yourself if you are really being verbally attacked. This post did not even have to come close to this type of conclusion.

Have a good night.

VFR,
You have a very inept way of asking questions when the answer has already been stated. You, in your own way, as mush as called her a liar PERIOD. I talk to this young lady at length and know she wanted a handsome pet she could be proud of.

Why don't you just be a man and apologize to her.

RickRick6544

Rick, You are seriously a waste of time. I'm not going to waste my time for you reading different words then what is actually written. Seek counseling and take a course in word comprehension.

In regards to Sugar Fox, I hope that by my previous post you now see that I was not trying to degrade you but that I was just inquisitive to something you posted on a public forum. If anyone is upset by what I posted, I won't apologize as there is nothing on my original post that degrades any person.

Ok,
heres my outlook on this sense some of my comments were mentioned. I've gone back and rean VFR's post many times and I can see where the original poster took offense to it. The way it was writen and certain words in caps can definitely be taken like someone was is being aggresive even if it wasn't meant that way. This has happened to me in the past and was a big deal and I didn't even mean for it to be takin that way. I went back reread my post and realized that eventhough I didn't mean it that way I could totally see how it could be interpreted that way cause it's not easy to express emotion or whatever when you write. So, eventhough I was joking with the person, it looked like I was attacking them. That was just my experience and just an example to what i'm trying to get at. Sometimes short and to the point responses can be takin that way. One thing we all have to remember is that this is a public forum where we can post our animals,ask questions and make new friends. When one posts a new thread they have to be ready for any and all opinions and replies, good or bad. Kingsnake is very particular with posts that they feel are out of hand or abusive. I'm sure, this post has been and is still being watched for "abuse". The fact that it's still up means that the moderater read it and doesn't see anything wrong yet. I think VFR was just trying to stress the fact that one eye'd albino's shouldn't be bred and was just making an observation from what he saw in the pix and the fact that you said they were your first boas and were new to them eventhough you stated they weren't going to be bred. I know VFR as he lives in my area and works with a lot of stuff I do so we've been in contact in the past. I can say from meeting up with him he's a good guy and a family man that loves his boas and everything that has to do with them. I don't think he'd deliberately come on here just to be mean or start something. There are people like that on here sometimes unfortunately but they're usually weeded out and banned. Thats all I have to say about that as I don't want it to seem like i'm taking sides with anyone.

Now, my outlook on the one eyed being bred.Seeing that he had two eyes when born and one was infected and not missing it's not a genetic thing and I think you should have no problem or worries about breeding him. This buldgy infected eye thing happens with both strains more then you think and I know for a fact,that even the "Bigger" more well know breeders that have these animals in their litters and can't save the eye, keep them for their own breedings down the road. They don't always talk about or mention it but it does happen cause they've all or most have come to the conclusion that an infected eye isn't a genetic defect. It's just something that happens that like I said above is treatable if it's addressed right away and isn't too far along yet. It would be a whole different story if it was never there. So,if down the road you decide you want to breed him I say go for it. Just explain to the potential buyer what I just explained above and it shouldn't be an issue.

Wow,that took way longer to type then I thought but I hope it helps the curent situation. Hope everyone has a good day! Take care!