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Hi Folks,

Quick question. As I understand it, any boa x any boa, the babies are F1 offspring, two siblings bred together are F2s. Is there terminology for a mother to son, father to daughter? (besides inbred, line bred whatever you want to call it). Would these also be F2s or a new generation of F1s?

I'd like to eventually pair Zahara with her son RedBoy and not sure what to call them besides just mother to son. I think they might make some pretty babies.
Zah:

Redboy:

Thanks!
-April

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'There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."' -Rainshadow

I don't think Fx applies to being bred back to parent. I'd just state it as it is, Male bred back to mother to enhance/refine xyz pattern/color etc. Line breeding is a valuable tool to refining any line but duh, to be done sparingly.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

I'd just say that the babies were produced from your "high color" project from the selective breeding of a mother to her son. Good luck!

>>I'd just say that the babies were produced from your "high color" project from the selective breeding of a mother to her son. Good luck!

Thanks! I will definitely be telling people that it was mother to son. I don't do much boa breeding but I do make sure people have pics and as much history about the parents as possible.
Take care,
April
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'There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."' -Rainshadow

>I don't think Fx applies to being bred back to parent.

thanks Dave! I wasn't sure if it would apply or not.

> Line breeding is a valuable tool to refining any line but duh, to be done sparingly.

I agree and luckily the father is completely un-related to Zahara, I think doing it once won't be too bad. Most of my plans involve outcrossing the lines but with this pair, I just don't think I could resist seeing the offspring.

Hope you're having a great day... do you have any anery brbs expected this season?
-April
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'There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."' -Rainshadow

They would still be considered F1's. F1 X F2 = F1 F2 X F8 = F1 and so on. Any time something new/different is added to the mix, the resulting offspring are defaulted back to the first Filial generation
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South Central Herpetological

No Anery babies due but do have Fluffy offspring due any minute.....pace, pace, pace!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

IMO, F1 and F2 are best left to actual genetics projects.

Any boa X any boa --> baby boas rather than F1s.

A mother X son mating is also called a mother X son backcross.

IMO, the best way to give information on the breeding is to give the buyer a pedigree.

Paul Hollander

"backcross" is the term I was trying to remember!
thanks!
-April
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'There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."' -Rainshadow

April:

What a beautiful pair of animals.

The Pastel is off the charts.

Thanks for sharing them with us.

Brian
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Brian Gundy

www.for-goodness-snakes.com

Zah is the best!!!
Why not call them F 1.5's? lol
jsc
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