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Interesting "Axanthic"? (pix inside)

ZFelicien Aug 26, 2008 02:15 AM

I was gifted an "Axanthic" female with a recent purchase of her sire.

This snake is from "Sulphur Snow" X Axanthic and looks "interesting" when i compared it to another axanthic and a ghost.

Here are some pix:

The "Axanthic"

Compared to a lemke Axanthic


Compared to a Ghost:

Thanx 4 looking

~ZF

Replies (11)

FunkyRes Aug 26, 2008 02:35 AM

That is cool!

Any theories?
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Upscale Aug 26, 2008 06:59 AM

I'm a big believer in the "Brooks" king, whatever you want to call them. I do think there is a different snake with a more diffused pattern. To me it looks like what I would imagine the difference would be between a axanthic Florida king and a axanthic Brooks king. Even within these two types, if you believe in them, there is alot of variation even to the point where they overlap characteristics that make them hard to tell apart. You might just have a real good one. Actually, that part is the sure thing!

ZFelicien Aug 26, 2008 08:39 AM

you may be very right, and it's just a killer variation, but here's where the confusion plays in.

Sulphur Snow as far as i know has BHB-Anery bred into it. so it's Lavender-Anery (Sulphur phenotype)

This Anery-Snow was bred to an Axanthic [i didn't see the rest of the clutch because the breeder said he messed up a little, and they didn't make it. this was the lone survivor. but he did say from the few eggs (4-6, can't recall how many) they all were axanthic!] knowing axanthic and anery are not the same, we shouldn't get axanthics in the 1st place. so i guess the sulphur snow is het Axanthic. i have no clue whether the axanthic female used is het for anything. all i know is she's from Jeff Lecompte's stock. the light areas on this "axanthic" are really pinkish, not purple like on the axanthic, yet not blue-grayish-silver like on the ghost

I'm sort-a leaning towards it's what an Axanthic-Anery 2x Homozygous specimen would look like. but i'll know more after i breed her back to the sulphur snow.

~ZF

Brandon Osborne Aug 26, 2008 12:33 PM

I checked out BHBs lines of anery this weekend. They are both totally different. He calls the black and white line the anery florida, and the black and blue-purple line brooksi. In a side by side comparison, you would have to be blind to not tell them apart. They are totally different in color and pattern.....as in not even close.

I think your animal looks like a ghost. All the ghosts I produced were always variable in darkness and that looks like it's going to be a nice one.

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ZFelicien Aug 26, 2008 08:43 AM

My theory:

It's a possible 2x Homozygous Axanthic-Anery... but time will tell!

it'll be realy cool when i bred her back to her sire, since she's het lavender and anery!

~ZF

Nokturnel Tom Aug 26, 2008 07:10 AM

By the way, BHB produced a W.S. Ghost!
Tom Stevens
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ZFelicien Aug 26, 2008 08:41 AM

Now when i saw the animal i thought, it looks like a "dirty ghost" ... but then i thought about the pairing(Sulphur snow X Axanthic) and said, it can't be a ghost!

it is a cool looking snake either way... sulphur snow will be bred to a lavender (het anery) next season, so i can get some answers to my own questions.

now where are those pix of the WS-ghost???

Nokturnel Tom Aug 26, 2008 09:01 AM

They didn't bring it! I scored a female Ghost het White Side for my tri het project and when I was buying it Lori told me they produced it this season and it was almost patternless and cool as hell. I was crushed haha, but even though I won't be the first to produce it I really happy to see that it was indeed produced this year. I am supposed to email Brian about something else so I will beg for pics.
Dude, the colubrid morphs were in numbers and there were tons of outrageous things to be seen. I did not even see half of the vendors tables and I saw things that flipped me out in a good way haha! I barely got to spend any time away from my table, I had a ton of snakes of my own to deal with. I think we will begin to see many pics of killer snakes being posted, as predicted there was not a lot of interest in Ball Pythons and colubrids were getting a lot of attention.
Tom
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foxturtle Aug 26, 2008 09:31 AM

...but if you believe it to not be a ghost, its probably what you get when you have a really light colored hatchling that is axanthic. Perhaps a result of the sulfur influence. Remember the normal hatchling Rainer posted next to the darker one that was from sulfur lines? Same thing in axanthic form, I would say...

thomas davis Aug 26, 2008 09:31 PM

looks like a ghost(hypoXaxan/anery),missed ya in daytona ya gotta come next year,,,,,thomas davis
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ZFelicien Aug 27, 2008 09:51 PM

I agree with the majority, it LOOKS like a ghost... time and test breeding test will tell.

i wish i could've been there, maybe next season (if time and $$ is on my side!) ... i did get some nice stuff from the show even though i wasn't physically there! i'll post pix soon

~Z

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