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This is one of my 2007 males.

Nice lookin BRB Jeff!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

He looks nice and light, clean, and has a lot of orange to him... very nice!
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5.19 BRB
10.20 BCI
0.1 Kenyan Sand Boa
0.1 Albino Corn Snake
2.8 Leopard Geckos

Very nice!
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Julie

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Jeff,

very nice and great size on him!!!
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I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

wow he looks big for an 07 how big is he
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-Stephen-
-Step-
-Steve Lightning-

0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
1.0 col redtail boa (Switch, formally known as Dixie)
0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)
0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (Saphira)

hopeful for not to distant future:
--Brazilian rainbow boas
2 or 3 more? maybe a breeding trio or two pair
-- something for the wifey... my list got to big...

Stephen,
....He is 40 inches long and is the biggest of my yearlings. Most of my other yearlings are quite a bit smaller. He got onto bigger fuzzy rats earlier than the others. His average growth rate has been 2 inches a month. If you survey keepers on this forum I think you will find some who grow them this quickly but that most get a growth rate around one to one and a half inches per month when they are young. For the first 24 months they convert food into linear growth very efficiently.
Jeff

>>wow he looks big for an 07 how big is he
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>>-Stephen-
>>-Step-
>>-Steve Lightning-
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>>0.1 soon to be wifey (hopefully)
>>1.0 rotwiler/chow (Boomer-wifey's pooch)
>>1.0 norm corn (Jake aka grumpy old terdhead)
>>1.0 col redtail boa (Switch, formally known as Dixie)
>>0.1 ball python (Bella- wifey's baby girl)
>>0.1 Brazilian Rainbow Boa (Saphira)
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>>hopeful for not to distant future:
>>--Brazilian rainbow boas
>> 2 or 3 more? maybe a breeding trio or two pair
>>-- something for the wifey... my list got to big...

Is he more active than your other yearlings? I'm wondering what fuels the appetite. Or is it simply that he was more physically ready to eat larger prey items, being thicker or having a sturdier digestion, etc.?

Also, are rats a healthier food item for BRBs than similarly-sized mice---and does that speed growth?

>>....He is 40 inches long and is the biggest of my yearlings. Most of my other yearlings are quite a bit smaller. He got onto bigger fuzzy rats earlier than the others. His average growth rate has been 2 inches a month. If you survey keepers on this forum I think you will find some who grow them this quickly but that most get a growth rate around one to one and a half inches per month when they are young. For the first 24 months they convert food into linear growth very efficiently.
>>Jeff
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Renee
1.0 BRB (Loki)
2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)

Renee,
...Some people say rats are more nutritious but I suspect that pound for pound they are pretty similar. I raise rats and always have rat pups available. The snakes that eat frozen and thawed mice usually are picky at times about them and so the ones on rats eat more regularly. If I had live mice all the time I suspect my mouse only little ones would grow as fast as the rat eaters. They all switch to rats eventually.
Jeff

>>Is he more active than your other yearlings? I'm wondering what fuels the appetite. Or is it simply that he was more physically ready to eat larger prey items, being thicker or having a sturdier digestion, etc.?
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>>Also, are rats a healthier food item for BRBs than similarly-sized mice---and does that speed growth?
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>>>>....He is 40 inches long and is the biggest of my yearlings. Most of my other yearlings are quite a bit smaller. He got onto bigger fuzzy rats earlier than the others. His average growth rate has been 2 inches a month. If you survey keepers on this forum I think you will find some who grow them this quickly but that most get a growth rate around one to one and a half inches per month when they are young. For the first 24 months they convert food into linear growth very efficiently.
>>>>Jeff
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>>Renee
>>1.0 BRB (Loki)
>>2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
>>0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
>>1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)

I have a group of yearlings too and one of my females gets exactly the same prey as all they others and no one at my house refuses (only rarely), and this one girls is just way bigger than the rest... even than her sister! I dunno, I was wondering why that is myself. But her mamma was a big one, so maybe she just inherited that trait. We'll see, I'm about to move her up before all the rest and we'll see if she grows like a runaway freight train after that!
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5.19 BRB
10.20 BCI
0.1 Kenyan Sand Boa
0.1 Albino Corn Snake
2.8 Leopard Geckos

Size is genetic, IMO pre-programed in. Those that are genetically pre-disposed to be large are gonna be large. Those that are programed to be small will be small. Altering the diet opposite of the pre-programmed size will only negatively affect the animal. Too little food for a large one will tend to make it aggressive and skinny. Too much food for a little one will tend to make it fat.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

One of my corn snakes is way thinner than the other and I used to feed him more often to try to get him up to the breadth of his step-brother, but it never worked. He's about the same length as his same-age cage-mate, but he's still way skinnier (but healthy looking). So I came to the same conclusion you have, Dave. Foxfire is just programmed to be thinner than Daguerre. Now they eat the same (same size prey item, same frequency), and I expect there will always be a difference in their girth.

>>Size is genetic, IMO pre-programed in. Those that are genetically pre-disposed to be large are gonna be large. Those that are programed to be small will be small. Altering the diet opposite of the pre-programmed size will only negatively affect the animal. Too little food for a large one will tend to make it aggressive and skinny. Too much food for a little one will tend to make it fat.
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>>Thanks,
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>>Dave Colling
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>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
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>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>26.49 BRB
>>20.21 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
>>
>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats
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Renee
1.0 BRB (Loki)
2.0 amel & anery corns (Foxfire & Daguerre)
0.1 blood python (Duchess, arriving later this month)
1.1 Cats (Nightshade & Cuzzy)

Jeff, you got a weight on that big boy?
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Dave,
..He weighs 284 grams. Another yearling male at 36 inches weighs 210 grams.
Jeff

>>Jeff, you got a weight on that big boy?
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>>Thanks,
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>>Dave Colling
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>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
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>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
>>26.49 BRB
>>20.21 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
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>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

That sounds give or take normal. I just weighed in all my "yearlings" Of course some are older than others by a significant amount...

My Will Bird offspring were born on either 05/26 or 06/07 depending on which litter they canme from. So actually almost 1 year 3 months old.
11 individuals ranging from 364 - 468 grams.

Then I have a pair of anery/het anery from Brian born on 06/27 so 1 year 2 months old and are 367 and 377 grams

Next are four het hypos born on 08/02 (1 year 1 month) 3 are mine and one is sold, range from 292 to 415 grams.

Then my four holdbacks from mid - late September so almost a year old, 141 - 191 grams

Last are the Pearls, guessing B-date was in October but ???
191 - 245 grams.

Interesting to me is each individual group seems to track closely together even though some groups are growing faster than others.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Thats an awesome looking snake!
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0.1 BRB
1.0 Columbian Red Tail Boa

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