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Hello, I'm new to this site but I've been breeding corns for a few years now. I'm looking forward getting to know everyone and learning new things and hopefully contributing to this forum.

This is an example of what we're working with and breeding:

Butter motley

We were also fortunate enough to hatch out a few lavender motley babies. We bred het to het for this clutch so it was a crap shoot.

I have been on K.com for several years but am new to corns. Welcome and nice snakes. I really like the lavendar motley!

dc

Thank you. There's a lot more that we hatched this year but I can't seem to post any more than one pic per post.

These are the result of breeding a male butter motley to a female bloodred, basically they are outcrossed bloodreds and the first step of a two generation process to make fire and sulfur corns.

The corn snake forum.

Yoou have some nice snakes for sure. And this forum wis extremely helpful, and fun. I thin you will enjoy it.

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Thanks for reading.
Big Tom

www.HerpZillA.com

try pressing the "shift" button in between pics... or example click the pic you wanna use first then shift and click the 2nd... see if that works
or you can make a free account with photobucket.com like i did below... just copy and paste the pics ... just a few of my reptile critters









~kin
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Thanks for the info.

You've got some nice looking critters there!!

THANKS

~kin
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You have some great looking projects going. I have a butter stripe project going and I really like bloods, especially amel blood and pewter, so was thinking about getting some stock to head that way, but excuse my ignorance but could you tell me more about the fire and sulfer, what they are, ect? I use the shift to highlight extra photos but for some reason I usually can only fit 3 per post, may have something to do with file size and the fact that I use kingsnakes photo storage? Not sure how others post 4 photos, maybe someone could shed some helpful light on that subject.
Thanks and welcome again
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Jeff Benfer

1.0 pastel Python regius
1.1 mojave Python regius
0.1 normal Python regius
1.3 Terrapene carolina thriunguis
2.3 Terrapene carolina carolina
4.1 Kinosternon baurii
1.1 Malaclemys terrapin terrapin
2.2 double het albino and anerythristicThamnophis sirtalis parietalis
1.0 anerythristic Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis
2.2 Iowa snow Thamnophis radix
0.2 het Christmas albino Thamnophis radix
1.1 double het cherry erythristic, albino Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 melanistic Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 triple heterozygous for amelanistic,carmel, and stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 anerythristic motley Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 Okeetee Pantherophis guttatus

a fire is an amel bloodred
and a sulfur is a butter bloodred AKA amel, caramel, bloodred
there is also :
Plasma: lavender, bloodred
Avalanche: amel, anery, bloodred
and i think its called a white out??
charcoal, amel, bloodred
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All the short names get confusing as to whats really what. Both fire and sulfur are in my copy of Charles Pritzel's 2007 Edition Cornsnake Morph Guide, but I guess I forgot. (of course I asked before looking it up...sorry) My wife says I do that a lot: asking where something is before looking She usually just ignores me for about 5 minutes giving me time to find whatever, that way she doesn't even have to answer me. lol
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Jeff Benfer

1.0 pastel Python regius
1.1 mojave Python regius
0.1 normal Python regius
1.3 Terrapene carolina thriunguis
2.3 Terrapene carolina carolina
4.1 Kinosternon baurii
1.1 Malaclemys terrapin terrapin
2.2 double het albino and anerythristicThamnophis sirtalis parietalis
1.0 anerythristic Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis
2.2 Iowa snow Thamnophis radix
0.2 het Christmas albino Thamnophis radix
1.1 double het cherry erythristic, albino Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 melanistic Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 triple heterozygous for amelanistic,carmel, and stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 anerythristic motley Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 Okeetee Pantherophis guttatus

yeah... i have the 2006, 2007 and most of the 2008 guides memorized
~kin
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I better get the 2008 before the cornsnake world passes me by...seriously I "need" to get it soon, when does the new edition come out each year? things are always changing huh, new stuff and new combos?
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Jeff Benfer

1.0 pastel Python regius
1.1 mojave Python regius
0.1 normal Python regius
1.3 Terrapene carolina thriunguis
2.3 Terrapene carolina carolina
4.1 Kinosternon baurii
1.1 Malaclemys terrapin terrapin
2.2 double het albino and anerythristicThamnophis sirtalis parietalis
1.0 anerythristic Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis
2.2 Iowa snow Thamnophis radix
0.2 het Christmas albino Thamnophis radix
1.1 double het cherry erythristic, albino Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 melanistic Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 triple heterozygous for amelanistic,carmel, and stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 anerythristic motley Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 Okeetee Pantherophis guttatus

coms out around march-july... some pretty interesting things in this one!!!
~kin
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np
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Jeff Benfer

1.0 pastel Python regius
1.1 mojave Python regius
0.1 normal Python regius
1.3 Terrapene carolina thriunguis
2.3 Terrapene carolina carolina
4.1 Kinosternon baurii
1.1 Malaclemys terrapin terrapin
2.2 double het albino and anerythristicThamnophis sirtalis parietalis
1.0 anerythristic Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis
2.2 Iowa snow Thamnophis radix
0.2 het Christmas albino Thamnophis radix
1.1 double het cherry erythristic, albino Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 melanistic Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 triple heterozygous for amelanistic,carmel, and stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 anerythristic motley Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 Okeetee Pantherophis guttatus

The short names can become very confusing. No problem in asking any questions...that's what forums are for.

I'm working pretty hard on the bloodred morph projects. I have been breeding my female bloodred to a different male every year creating outcrosses.

2 years ago I bred her to a normal male, I'm sure he's het for something but I don't know what. The goal here is to hatch bloodreds in the 2nd generation.

last year I bred her to a snow het hypo in hopes of producing avalanches, fires, peppers, and possible hypo bloodreds in the 2nd generation.

This year I bred her to my male butter mot in an attempt to produce fires and sulphurs. Also what will happen when diffusion meets motley on the same snake?

Next year the plan is to breed her to my male normal striped motley.

interesting, so nobody has produced motley bloods, or striped bloods? if not that would be cool to see what happens. I was wanting to add amel bloods to my collection, just because I really like the looks, and then cross with triple het or motley anery, then look to 2nd gen for some cool stuff. good luck with your projects.
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Jeff Benfer

1.0 pastel Python regius
1.1 mojave Python regius
0.1 normal Python regius
1.3 Terrapene carolina thriunguis
2.3 Terrapene carolina carolina
4.1 Kinosternon baurii
1.1 Malaclemys terrapin terrapin
2.2 double het albino and anerythristicThamnophis sirtalis parietalis
1.0 anerythristic Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis
2.2 Iowa snow Thamnophis radix
0.2 het Christmas albino Thamnophis radix
1.1 double het cherry erythristic, albino Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 melanistic Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 triple heterozygous for amelanistic,carmel, and stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 anerythristic motley Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 Okeetee Pantherophis guttatus

some people have produced motley bloods and are currently producing striped bloods, but personally i think its pointless b/c if you have a real NICE bloodred the saddles wether motley, striped or normal are almost invisible.... but thats why i dont breed them
~kin
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dont forget granite - Anery B and bloodred
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****Misty****

www.sneakyserpents.com

"The more things change, the more they remain Insane"

oh, and if you are listing bloodred morphs - Pewter = anery A, bloodred (my favorite)
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****Misty****

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"The more things change, the more they remain Insane"

but pewter is also called "pepper" but personally, i like pewter better....and we didnt mention "plasma" a lav. bloodred
~kin
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actually, You did!
ha!
I am sure there are more that we missed, but those are the most common.
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****Misty****

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