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What would be the best male to pair with a normal jungle female? How long would it take him to get to breeding size? I'm thinking a pastel. Would you get visual pastels or just hets? I'm kind of learning here. and I think visuals have color and hets look like normal brown and tan right, but will produce visual pastels?? I hope I'm using the right terms. To get a pied baby would it work to breed a het pied to her? Would i get pied babies or would they be het for pied, or a mixture of both? Please let me know if I'm close or way off.
Thanks

If breeding a het pied to her what would I get?

Hey, Shadow! Welcome!

Think of Pastel as a visual het for Super-Pastel. Breed a het (be it the visual het "Pastel" or a more hidden het like Albino or Pied) to a Normal, and you'll get 50% normal babies and 50% hets.

Because a heterozygous Super-Pastel is visually recognizable (as Pastel), Pastel is referred to as "co-dominant". In mutations where the heterozygous form is not visible (i.e., the same as normal BPs), we call them "recessive". Soooo . . . .

Breed your Jungle female (which is, in most cases, just a very pretty normal - I have one too, and she's gorgeous! I call her "Bindi", 'cause I just couldn't resist.) to a Pastel, and you'll get 50% Normals and 50% Pastels (het for Super-Pastel). Because Pastel is co-dominant and hets are visible, you'll be able to recognize which ones are your hets, 'cause they'll be Pastels.

Breed your Jungle girl to a het Pied, and you'll get 50% Normals and 50% hets for Pied. Unfortunately, because Pied is recessive and hets look Normal, you won't be able to tell which ones are het and which are normal until you breed them back to either a Pied or het Pied.

Good luck with your choice, and enjoy the journey!

~Bruce

So if someone offers you a het pied.. You have to breed them to see if they are het or just normal? How would a breeder know the "het pied" he is selling is actually a het. Would he/she have bred them out already to see?

All the big breeders would breed the visable
morph (i.e piebald or albino) to a normal. This
would make all the offspring 100% Het
(i.e piebald or albino).

This means all the baby snakes would look normal
but carry the genes for the morph (i.e piebald or albino).

Found this on web a few years back...

http://www.geneticswizard.com/f_Genetics_Querybuilder.asp

Hope this helps.

Not necessarily, because the breeder knows the animal's parentage.

If he (or she!) bred a visual Pied to a Normal, all of the offspring will be hets. If he bred two hets together, 50% of the babies will be hets, 25% Normals, and 25% Pied. (These are the "66% hets" you see all the time - you get better odds than with 50% hets, but still a chance - 33% - that you're paying a little extra for Normals.)

With hets, though - you need to decide whether you trust the breeder to accurately represent his animals' genetics, as well as their condition.

~Bruce

What you should breed to your normal???

The thing to keep in mind is that there are dom. codom and res. gene. A dom and codom will be visible when present... no such thing as a het for a dom codom. When you work with res. if you breed a visible res. to a normal you get all normal looking babies aka hets. Pied, Clowns, Albino are just a few. If you breed a het to a normal or het to het you will always have a chance to get normals, non gene cariers which means there is only one way to find out who's normals and who's hets. This is done by years of breeding to prove them out.

If you buy a het you need to find a relayable seller because they could just be selling you a normal.

I would recommend you do a little studying on what is what as far as dom codom and recess and then look at what patterns you like. Some people think one morph is awesome and you may think it looks ugly, go for something you will be proud of.

Then look at what you can afford and you are off to a start!!!

Welcome to the wide world of Balls, there is a lot of excitement and hours of lost sleep thinking of what morph is the perfect addition to your collection!

matt