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FR do you breed blackthroats?

nogard Oct 14, 2005 05:15 PM

I know that is a dumb question, but do you still breed them, and sell them, I have an adult blackthroat and am looking to buy a nice true captive bred blackthroat baby, if you dont breed them any longer do you know who does? I love my adult but he came to me very roughed up, he is missing 4 toes and about four inches his tail, and I have no idea of his age, the previous owner had him for 3 years, and said he was full grown when he got him, I bust my ass keeping him comfortable, and happy. he is very tolerant of my presence, So i want to get a baby blackthroat that is captive bred in the U.S.A
thanks
tony butler

Replies (11)

Shawdow Oct 14, 2005 11:03 PM

Cool. Blackthroats are a lot of fun. I have 4 blackthroats at the moment right now. There in a 14ft long X 8ft wide cage. What size cage do you have yours in? Is it a male or female?

paine Oct 15, 2005 08:29 AM

I cant tell you for sure if they are really CB but here is an ad i came across. good luck
BT for sale

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0.1.0 BCI, 3 yr old
0.0.1 Ridge Tail Monitor, Juvi.
0.0.1 Leoperd Gecko, Juvi (My girlfriends)

SHvar Oct 15, 2005 06:53 PM

Wild Caught with no doubt.
CBB BTs are very very very rare in the pet trade, they also cost between $250-$350 each as hatchlings with people who can beyond any reasonable doubt prove they are USCB.

reptilicus Oct 15, 2005 11:28 PM

Varanidfan (= Scott) over at Varanus.nl forum just got baby V. albigularis, so its not as rare as you subscribe Shvar.... and far more people have bred them than I suspect you are aware of...
but this information will be forth-coming soon enough...
mbayless

FR Oct 16, 2005 01:07 AM

BT=blackthroat, which is the subject of SHvars post.

WT=Whitethroat, which is what Scott has produced. Some from my babies, I believe.

Maybe you should pay a little closer attention, thanks FR

SHvar Oct 16, 2005 01:57 AM

The last were Pro Exotics in 2002 and Dan Turner in 2001 in North America.

casichelydia Oct 17, 2005 12:12 PM

2001 also saw a clutch hatch at a small tourist aquarium in Hot Springs, AR. I don't know exactly how many of the eggs hatched, at least a few did.

It makes you wonder how many successful reproductions do go on without ever being "reported." The babies produced from the above clutch all sold cheaply, quickly, and locally. I do know that at least one of the offspring, a male, is still around, and I'm uncertain as to whether the aquarium kept any of the offspring themselves.

FR Oct 17, 2005 02:31 PM

No one said, Shvar listed all the reproductive events, or even was aware of them all. The statement was, captive hatched are not commonly in the pet trade. Wild caughts are commonly in the pet trade.

Your mention of a single event in 2001 or marks mention of a WT breeding, only confirms the statement made. They are indeed rarely bred and not "in" the pet trade.

Whether theres 1 or 10 clutches hatched a year is meaningless, that would still be rare, but the reality is most likely its less then five a year. That sir is not common compared to how many are imported. Which I believe is the point. Thanks FR

casichelydia Oct 18, 2005 12:44 AM

that while "unreported" breedings are not likely a norm for this or most monitor species, it is curious how many there may be.

The pertinence of lacking regularity in captive breeding of heavily imported species to the reptile trade as a whole is something that I have slightly more polar views on than some, maybe you, maybe not, but alas, that's a different thread.

reptilicus Oct 18, 2005 09:59 AM

Hi,
I have collected a "Considerable" number of breeding events for V. albigularis/African varanids - many of them to be published early next year, 2006. And Yes, many go without notice, as anyone interested will see...and I suspect many will be surprised that V. albigularis has essentially two breeding seasons, ~April and October-December.

cheers,
mbayless

FR Oct 15, 2005 04:23 PM

whitethroats, the same but smaller, thank goodness. FR

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