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Is There Such Things as Feeding too Much

Paradon Jun 25, 2006 02:02 PM

3 days ago I fed my savannah monitor large jumbo crickets as much as he will eat, and now he still isn't hungry. I'd try offering him some more crickets, but he still show no interest eventhough he pooped out all the crickets that I've fed him 3 days ago. I'm not sure what is wrong. I don't know if he is still full or not. I would certainly hope so rather than having a sick monitor. Prior to feeding him the crickets, he ate a snail and a jumbo cricket. I'd read that a healthy savannah will willingly eat anytime you offer it food, so I hope he isn't ill. Any insight would be greatly appreated! Thank you!

Replies (14)

holygouda Jun 25, 2006 05:05 PM

Did you try to feed him something other than crickets?
I fed my baby water monitor crickets for a while and then he just lost interest in them.
He sure hasn't lost his appetite though.

Paradon Jun 25, 2006 06:20 PM

I tried a small fuzzy mouse on Saturday, but he showed no interest. I'm beginning to worry!

holygouda Jun 25, 2006 07:28 PM

Maybe he is not eating because he is stressed out? My monitor would not eat when he was freaked out. Have you tried leaving the food in the cage and leaving him alone for a while? I don't know all the things you have tried, but if you've tried everything maybe a vet visit wouldn't be a bad idea. Perhaps someone else will chime in with a suggestion or two...good luck

Paradon Jun 25, 2006 10:23 PM

Good news! He just puked up a huge partly digested cricket. So my assumption was right. He swallowed way too many large crickets without crushing them first.

mr-python Jun 25, 2006 10:27 PM

sounds like he wasnt able to digest them enough. how hot is your basking spot? it wouldnt have mattered if he didnt 'chew' his stomach acids can still digest his food.
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Paradon Jun 26, 2006 12:02 AM

I'm not sure, but I leave the bulb on until noon. And it got about 95-100 today outside around nooon, and I have them in the garage. I need to get a thermometer.

mr-python Jun 26, 2006 12:10 AM

>>I'm not sure, but I leave the bulb on until noon. And it got about 95-100 today outside around nooon, and I have them in the garage. I need to get a thermometer.

whoa, okay. yes, you definitely need a digital thermometer. you can get them at walmart. look for an accu-rite.

the basking spot NEEDS to be 120-130 about.

dont turn the bulb off at noon. turn it off at night and turn it on back in the morning. you can evel leave it on 24/7

your monitor wasnt eating because he was not able to digest his crickets. he depends on the temperature for his metabolism and energy. when he was too cold he couldnt digest therefor he would not eat.
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-Marshall
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FR Jun 26, 2006 09:08 AM

Your advice could kill this persons monitor. Most likely it will die anyway.

They said, its in the garage and it gets 100 outside, if the garage is uncooled, the garage will exceed 100f. So a hot spot set in the mourning will far exceed lethal temps once it gets hot out.

The only advice I can think of is, either keep the animals in a safe place, somewhere with controlled temps(so you can set it up properly) or give it to someone who will.

Marshall your effort was good, but if your going to give advice, you need to ask questions first, like where, when, how, what, etc, like a reporter.

The thing is, heat kills quickly. Other poor conditions, kill slowly. Some real slowly.

There are options for this person, like using a thermostat, and devising a cool area of some sort. Remember, getting away from heat is as important has getting to heat(a temp range)

Even if the hot spot did not kill the monitor outright, it would surely not allow any cool areas to exsist. Cheers

mr-python Jun 26, 2006 04:52 PM

told him about the cool spot too. sorry about that one. ill be careful next time.
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-Marshall
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Paradon Jun 28, 2006 12:58 PM

Well, he ate a pinkie mouse and a cricket yesterday.

Tann Jun 29, 2006 07:03 PM

Franks right, the garage will reach as hot as it is outside and prolly even hotter. Those cool spots like burrows or hidespots in his cage offer no protection from this and more than likely will make the humidty sky rocket if theres any type of water in there also.

Put the cage somewhere else thats temperture controled or else that monitor is gonna be end up dying from the heat..
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robyn@ProExotics Jun 26, 2006 12:00 PM

if you don't want to apply solid husbandry, you are going to have more problems than feeding. like death.

you say you don't even have a thermometer. good grief, why not just kill this animal quickly, get your act together, and then start again. that is better than killing it slowly, which is what you are doing now. hard to hear perhaps, but so true.

if you want to make the quick turnaround, start with a great caresheet, order the Savannah Monitor book by RAVI and BENNETT, and follow it closely. get a digital thermometer at the very least, or better yet, get a temp gun. even better, get both.

quit feeding snails, whales, and peanut butter. feed proper feeder insects and mice, period.

check out our site for the caresheet, book, and tools, and go over the FAQ while you are there. there is MUCH work to be done.

best of luck.
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Paradon Jun 28, 2006 01:03 PM

Well, thanks for the advice. He ate a pinkie and cricket yesterday.

robyn@ProExotics Jun 28, 2006 04:41 PM

i don't want to burst your bubble. but a pinkie and a cricket do not a healthy monitor make...
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