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Hey all,
I was bored and decided to take some pics of my woma pair. Stripes seem to be getting a little bit darker on the top but otherwise they are still looking good. I heard they can be very drab while growing up. Mine still have good contrast.
Hopefully you enjoy,
Nick

Those are beautiful!

Womas are definitely on the short list of animals I'd like to add to my collection. Blackheads are too, but not at their current value (theirs) to cashflow (mine) ratio!

That red tigerstriping is just - cool.

~Bruce

Thank you for the compliments. I am glad I waited until I found some with a good paint job. They were a little more than others, but well worth it. I can't wait until they are big enough to breed.
I wish I had the money and space for a pair of black heads. They are just as cool in my book. Maybe I will build a snake room in may garage next year...and sell some of the womas offspring to buy some black heads
Nick

Very nice Woma there!
I finally noticed how neat they are and have been on quite the tear, picking up several specimens over the last couple of years.
They are really neat pythons and have quite a different set of behaviors than other pythons.

Yasser
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Thanks Yasser, I wouldlike to see some of your womas. I really liked the western hogs you have. I have a few. Is one of yours a hypo or just a red phase?
Nick

Here's pics of a couple of 2008 babies we picked up from Derek. These pics are already dated...the colors and size of the buggers changes so fast when they're young!

As far as Hogs go, we've never had a hypo but with 16 years of breeding them, we've gotten some that are hypo without being hypo in the genetic sense of the term.

Yasser

SPITFIRE REPTILES

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These snakes are gorgeous. I just got my first Woma, a 2008 female, on Thursday. She currently hiding in the box while she goes through a shed.

Could either of you (Nick or Yasser) at what humidity level you keep them? They live in very arrid regions, but I saw a site that talked about them needing high huminity and it just didn't make sense to me.

Also, I would like to give the snake a semi-natural looking environment, have you used any kind of gravel or sand bedding for them?

Thanks,

Yvon
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Yvon
2.1.0 humans (including self)
0.0.1 spotted python (born June 2005)
0.0.1 garter snake (born August 2002)
0.0.3 fish
1.0.0 hamster
1.0.0 red eared slider (sitting for the summer)

Yvon -
As for the humidity, womas are actually found in a wide range of areas across their natural habitat and will do just fine in a wide range of captive conditions. That said, most people keep them a bit to the warm and dry side.

Personally I bump the humidity up a bit when they are blue, and then change the paper and dry the cage out after their shed. The rest of the time, I don't really worry about humidity for them. (beyond that, any site that recommends keeping them at "high humidity" is not accurate and I wouldn't trust anything off that care sheet).

As for the substrate, Esp with a young woma, I wouldn't recommend any sort of gravel/sand as a substrate. I would stick w/ newspaper or paper towel for the time being for your woma. It is much easier to keep a clean and "healthy" cage for your animals.

I usually put several layers of paper towels in the tubs for the smaller womas - giving them something to get under.

That is very helpful. Thank you.
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Yvon
0.0.1 Ball (2006)
0.1 Woma (2008)
1.0 Cat

I keep mine on care fresh. The humidity is not that high, but I do put in a moist rag while they are in shed. I also do not keep them hot. 75-85 seems good. If you do the natural substrate thing, just realize it is more work. I was looking at the excavator stuff thinking it would look nice and you could make creavaces and tigt caves in it. Just not ready for that much work right now.
Nick

It's the first time I heard about the Excavator Clay. Looks like a lot of fun and a lot more work as well I might experiment with it in the future.

In the mean time I'll stick to either Carefresh or Aspen (once the snake is old enough).

Thanks for your advice!

Yvon
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Yvon
0.0.1 Ball (2006)
0.1 Woma (2008)
1.0 Cat

Quick follow up: After further research on Kingsnake.com's forums, Excavator Clay doesn't look very promissing...
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Yvon
0.0.1 Ball (2006)
0.1 Woma (2008)
1.0 Cat

LOL! good thing I didn't try it. I was just worried about replacing it after it was fouled with urates.
Nick

I stick to paper with a hide box. Simple seems to work best.
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1.1 Blackheaded pythons
2.3 Woma
4.2 Aussie Olives
1.1 Timors
1.1 Bloods
2.2 IJ Carpets
1.0 Coastal Carpets
1.3 Macklotts
1.2 F2 Carpondros
2.0 Jungle Carpet
0.1 Carpondro
1.1 Brazilian Rainbow boas
0.1 child, CB
0.1 wife, WC

Awesome snakes and awesome setting for the pictures.

Thanks Dave. The setting is just in my yard. I live in the mountains and there are big rocks everywhere.
Nick

I notice that your womas have thick tails. I've seen other pictures where the tails look very distinct and skinny and I thought that was a characteristic of Womas.

But now I wonder, do Womas store fat in their tail like some lizards? Am I crazy? Feel free to laugh.
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Yvon
0.0.1 Ball (2006)
0.1 Woma (2008)
1.0 Cat

I believe that for the most part, males seem to have longer tails than females. So females (top pic) have a shorter tail and males (bottom pic)have a longer tail with more taper length and a skinny tail tip.
Please correct me if I am wrong, this is just speculation.
Nick

Probably the best Womas Ive ever seen...