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Hypo Erythristic Mex Mex

that little guy is awesome looking
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that's a darn beautiful mex mex, but I don't think it's a hypo-E. That red, where it's available on your animal, is pretty red. A hypo-E is a reduction in the red pigmentation, not the amount of red that is present on the body. Thus, a washed out red that is faded to a pinkish salmon color. Kinda like this:

See the difference? Regardless, that mex mex is amazing and a pic of the entire snake is in order.
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Hypo just means less... different hypomelanistic morphs either have less black pigmentation, or lower intensity black pigmentation. One results in a cleaner look, the other in a faded look. Hypo brooks have full black pigmentation, just less of it. Hypo hondurans have a less intense black pigment, often a lavender coloration instead.

I think the same logic could be applied to hypo-erythristic morphs.

>>Hypo just means less... different hypomelanistic morphs either have less black pigmentation, or lower intensity black pigmentation. One results in a cleaner look, the other in a faded look. Hypo brooks have full black pigmentation, just less of it. Hypo hondurans have a less intense black pigment, often a lavender coloration instead.
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>>I think the same logic could be applied to hypo-erythristic morphs.

So with your 'logic' these below would be hypomelanistic thayeri.....I do not think so......
I would think if it is a true morph it would have to be a trait that is reproducible... (recessive or co-dominant)
I think these are just variations of pattern not variations of pigment or lack of pigment......
Just my own honest opinion...

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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."

>>Hypo just means less... different hypomelanistic morphs either have less black pigmentation, or lower intensity black pigmentation. One results in a cleaner look, the other in a faded look. Hypo brooks have full black pigmentation, just less of it. Hypo hondurans have a less intense black pigment, often a lavender coloration instead.
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>>I think the same logic could be applied to hypo-erythristic morphs.

Then that would mean all the alterna phased grey banded kings with no orange would be anery.... But, they are not....Simply pattern variation.
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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."

I didn't say the above Mex-Mex was Hypo-E, only that the other poster's stated criteria were not the only criteria that could fit hypo-E.

>>I didn't say the above Mex-Mex was Hypo-E, only that the other poster's stated criteria were not the only criteria that could fit hypo-E.
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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."

>>Hypo just means less... different hypomelanistic morphs either have less black pigmentation, or lower intensity black pigmentation. One results in a cleaner look, the other in a faded look. Hypo brooks have full black pigmentation, just less of it. Hypo hondurans have a less intense black pigment, often a lavender coloration instead.
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>>I think the same logic could be applied to hypo-erythristic morphs.

Is this thayeri Hypo-erythristic? If so, I certainly sold it way too cheap?

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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."

another clarification pic, but post-shed. Stark difference between hypoE and normal red pigmentation. Quite similar in a couple other tricolors, and most recently in these. I believe Erik Kikel has true hypoE Mex Mex.

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>>another clarification pic, but post-shed. Stark difference between hypoE and normal red pigmentation. Quite similar in a couple other tricolors, and most recently in these. I believe Erik Kikel has true hypoE Mex Mex.
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I've never seen Erik's but I know Shannon Brown just picked one up somewhere....he posted a while back on the Mexicana Sub Forum.
I wish someone would prove one out so I can get some....LOL
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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."

the very same snake -- matter of fact, I'm pretty sure that's the snake in Erik's collection. I've prompted him to respond to this post already. Super nice guy, and the snake is a tru hypoE. Thanks John...

Its my understanding that Eric got his animals from Tom A in 04. Shannon Brown now has the animals. I had the original animal that produced this line 10 years ago. Tom A has it now. I got hets from Tom in 05. The picture that I posted is the closest thing to the original animal that we've seen.

>>Its my understanding that Eric got his animals from Tom A in 04. Shannon Brown now has the animals. I had the original animal that produced this line 10 years ago. Tom A has it now. I got hets from Tom in 05. The picture that I posted is the closest thing to the original animal that we've seen.

Then.... Maybe we need some more pictures of the reduced pigment that is present......
I thought we were looking at the reduced pattern (where the pigment should be)......
But if the present 'red' on the mexmex has that salmon/pinkish look, then it could be......IMO
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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."

Here is a body pic

>>Here is a body pic
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Check your email when you have the time......
Thanks,
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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."

>>Hypo Erythristic Mex Mex
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In my opinion...Not a Hypo E but a REAL Nice Split banded Mexmex.....

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John Lassiter

"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."