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Mixing stock tang x tri-color breeding

ExcessiveHerps Sep 12, 2008 11:09 AM

I just recently learned of 2 regional "morphs" tri-color" and "tangerine" one website said "bi-colored" is the 3rd yet another showed "bi-colored" as just albino tangs. Not really sure if the 3rd is accepted as a regional difference. I'm curious to find out if when selective breeding there are concerns with keeping tang and tri-colors sepreate or if they are bred together without concern.

Thanks

Xavier

Replies (5)

DMong Sep 13, 2008 01:43 PM

They are not "regional morphs per se, but rather all three are natural color variations that are found in the wild that can, and are bred into all the known morphs in the hobby. The tricolor, tangerine and bicolors can be totally normal, or albino or hypo, etc...once any of those particular recessive genes has been introduced.

There are some that have certain separate types of these variants, and some that have all these types. Additionally these different co-dominant color traits are also bred together as well, and can have intermediate individuals, or ones that look more one color than the other. A great deal of this can also have to do with what previous parent and grandparent stock look like. You can also breed two like colored parents together and get different looks within a clutch as well. There is no real correct, or incorrect pairing of these color variants, but are more individual personal taste.

Bicolored animals are simply animals that have the tendency of the inner light triad(rings of three) band to become very close, or identical to the wider RBR(red body ring). On the same token, the albino forms with much whiter bands are individuals that would normally have no other "underlying" pigment(s), which is why other's can have a tendency of displaying a yellowish, peach, or even a greenish tint to their outer white rings.

~Doug





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ExcessiveHerps Sep 13, 2008 04:35 PM

Thanks that's very helpful. I'm still have alittle difficulty trying to distinguish tangs and bi-colors. Would you happen to know a good place where I can compare the two?

Thanks

Xavier

DMong Sep 13, 2008 07:43 PM

I'm having a little trouble following some of this, "tangerines" can be JUST as bicolored as red ones can be, just as long as the two colors are similar, or the same.

Just do some google "image" searches, and you will see sites with examples of all these types.

You really would benefit GREATLY by investing just a few dollars in some inexpensive milksnake books, as well as some other's that explain how the genetics work of some of todays commonly bred traits. Once you get an understanding of how some of the basics work, the rest is more easily understood.

best regards, ~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

ExcessiveHerps Sep 13, 2008 08:41 PM

Thanks

I've seen dozens of pix over the last week yet not really seeing a difference in the two (tangs vs bi-colored). I've picked up applegates book this week and read it all in just a few hours. I bred leopard geckos for a few years and have a fairly good understanding of simple recessive, co-dominate, & dominate traits and how they interact with each other. Ofcourse I still need to learn of all the morphs for hondos and which type of traits they hold to understand how they are produced. I know there much more photos to look at, books to read, post to check out just had a couple specific questions I haven't found answers to. I do appreciate the help.

Xavier

DMong Sep 13, 2008 10:39 PM

I think you will really enjoy them!

~Doug
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"Better to be silent and thought a fool, than to open mouth and remove any doubt!"

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