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eradi Sep 15, 2008 09:28 PM

Check your yahoo email...
ER

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newstorm Sep 16, 2008 04:45 PM

I checked it... Nothing. I'll try mailing you. He looks GREAT!!!

newstorm Sep 16, 2008 04:54 PM

Your email came back saying your address is bad.

chuck911jeep Sep 16, 2008 05:42 PM

I don't understand why V.ornatus are not more popular. It's a real joy to keep them.
Take care!

sdslancs Sep 16, 2008 06:59 PM

Are these your hatchlings? If so, congrats!

chuck911jeep Sep 16, 2008 09:49 PM

Thank you!

eradi Sep 16, 2008 09:42 PM

Yes, I have really enjoyed her!
Her name is Sunny, as a joke, for her bright and sunny disposition! Ha ha! I have learned a lot from her and she
is one of my favorites. She's just about 2 years old and
had a very rough start. Got her as a severly underweight
boney hatchling with all the maladies included - RI, bacterial
infection, you name it! She's bullet-proof now.

Please elaborate on the pix you posted.

E

chuck911jeep Sep 16, 2008 11:46 PM

I bred this young adult pair in the 25/26 February.

Female laid March 28. 25 eggs, that I incubate with 2 differents medium (perlite and coconut dust) and at different température (lack of place in the incubator shelf)

Than snakes eggs start to hatch

.................Just kidding!...................

....Ok, back to serious.
On August 2, eggs start hatching from stage to stage (higher to lower temperature)

............

........until Beginning september

Take care!
Justin

eradi Sep 17, 2008 07:43 AM

Great pix & info!
Thanks for sharing.
E

sdslancs Sep 17, 2008 02:29 PM

Is this your first success breeding monitors? or just with Ornatus? You don't see this everyday-CBB niles/Ornatus. Thanks for posting the pics. It's great stuff!
What are your plans for the hatchlings?

chuck911jeep Sep 17, 2008 06:40 PM

Hi!
I have already bred Varanus tristis few times but had only one live baby (problems with my incubation method). It was my first attempt with this young pair and i plan to do it again next spring. I will keep few baby and the rest are almost all gone.

On a side note, I am also raising young nice niles for another breeding project.

Thank's for your interest and take care.

sdslancs Sep 17, 2008 08:02 PM

Is that a morph? It looks very light colored.
Anyhow, good luck with the breeding project.
Again, you just don't see too many CBB niles, it would be nice to find out if there's much difference in temprement between WC and CBB.

sidbarvin Sep 17, 2008 10:20 PM

Wow! Very nice Justin! Do you know the locality of these?
Roger

chuck911jeep Sep 18, 2008 08:50 AM

To answer sdslancs, no it's not a morph. It was only the stunner from the shipment.
They are suppose to came from Kenya.

sidbarvin Sep 18, 2008 06:39 PM

That is a truly amazing looking animal Justin! I hope you will post some photos as they grow. I'd be very interested in seeing how it turns out as an adult.

chuck911jeep Sep 18, 2008 06:56 PM

Hi Roger.
This locality is suppose to stay smaller and judging by the size they grow until now(they are now a little over 1 year old) i believe it's true. They are both approximatly 2 feet, eating like niles.
Take care.

swilson86 Sep 19, 2008 02:17 PM

How big is their adult size supposed to be? Hopefully this proves out, that would be a nice find.

chuck911jeep Sep 22, 2008 12:34 PM

They are suppose to become 3-4 feet... But only time will tell.

SHvar Sep 24, 2008 10:17 PM

V.niloticus are the longest varanid in the continent of Africa, with averages of 6-7ft as adults, and longer. In fact a female was captured in a school playground in Egypt years ago, she was 7ft 11 3/4 inches long (this is a female, the smaller sex).
Ive seen many examples over the years when someone says they must have a dwarf (whatever species), the animal is growing slow for whatever reason, that reason is what you need to find out and correct.
A good friend had an ornatus that was small for a long time, I switched its cage for him, redesigned the basking area, basking light, and its diet. This lizard tripled in length in 3 months, he gave her away to another friend and we set the cage up. In a matter of months she was over 4ft long and still growing.
This friends wife still has her big niloticus, which is pretty normal in size (he came from a group that was imported as hatchlings, of which most of the others never grew much, obvious conditions), yet he is 6ft plus.
When I first posted here years ago the average member thought that a blackthroat as an adult averaged 3-4ft long, this was because they saw theirs grow to those sizes, yet I had experience with 5ft plus in a year to 2 years time with that species. At around this time I got Sobek (my albig cross), I was told that she would grow to 4-4.5ft at most. I guessed that she would grow to 5ft at a year old by her current growth rate (at that time), I was called practically every name in the book for making that statement. Guess what, at 1 year old she was 5ft long (she was CBB), at 2 years old she was 6ft, and she kept growing. Now shes 6ft 8 inches (or more, I havent measured her in a while).
Ive had other species grow big and fast also, even exanthematicus (of which most keepers see 2-3ft full grown). I was given and bought albigs that were small for years, yet they grew like crazy in my care, so why. I kept them in conditions I knew as normal, I cant vouch for the conditions of the animals care beforehand though.

chuck911jeep Sep 25, 2008 12:15 PM

I never said this locality to be dwarf. They are "suppose" to stay "smaller", 3-4 feet, which is small for niles and i don't have any reasons until now to doubt about it. Don't worry, if they have the potential to grew up to 7 feet, they will.
Like i told, only time will tell...
Take care.

tokaysrnice Sep 20, 2008 02:29 PM

Nice work Justin! Now how are those Ptyas carinatus comming along?
Nate

chuck911jeep Sep 22, 2008 12:18 PM

Hi Nate!
Everything was fine until they both died short after eating a meal. I still have 1 big one and he/she didn't ate by himself since i have it. I really have problems acclimating this specie.
Take care.

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