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How many here stock there own antivenom??? I would to know who/how you are able too do so I'm interested in stocking anti-venom for my self **SAIMR Polyvalent Anti-venom** any help is very much appreciated.

Thank you

Jesse

Well first you should know the proper term is Antivenin.

I opened a case and guess what?
its printed like this...

SAMIR POLYVALENT ANTIVENOM!

as far as I know you are incorect or out dated
antivenom is the correct term NOW!
only old timers refer to it as antivenin.
so the kid is not wrong only you.
as I suspect not to many out here stock antivenom
let alone know how to use it .
have fun be safe
learn!
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Bud

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antivenin

I feel sorry for people like you who try to shoot people down. It is not constructive at all.

Am I picking you up on your poor grammar? Your / you're? No.

So give people a break, and say something useful!
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The first antivenom was Calmette’s Antivenomous Serum, named after the inventor Albert Calmette. He was French and conducted some of his experiments in Lille, France. He wrote papers in French, such as his “Le Venin des Serpentes” (from the very late 1800’s) which is where the whole “antivenin” thing first started. Translated, “venin” becomes “venom” in English. The French word is freely used and recognized, just as many other French words, like bon voyage, cul-de-sac, déjà vu, risqué, souvenir, etc. Why so worked up about this? I suspect you are, pardon my French, an “agent provocateur”.

sorry to bring you down
I was replying to the second post where the poster stated the first poster was wrong.

here is the quote

-Author: jsi11

"Well first you should know the proper term is Antivenin."
.............................................................

That alone was enough for a detailed response.
since its come up many times and its antivenom.
its a 1800s term as far as I am concerened I live in the usa and speak english not french.

and I answered him also giving something usefull

letting him know there are not to many out here that stock AV. anything wrong with that answer....

so as far as i am concerned nothing was to far out of line with my post.
its just so hard to read some of the posts without wanting to reply then you do and grammer police and the sensitivity squads go at you but the facts remain facts even after all the politics are over.

anyone?

You are asking about South African Vaccine Producers products, specifically their polyvalent antivenom (antivenin is a French word, the correct English is antivenom).
They make three antivenoms for snakes, a monovalent Boomslang, a monovalent Saw Scaled Viper, and the poly, that does not include Rhinocerous venom in the mix. It does have Gaboon, Puff, a couple cobras and Mamba in the mix.

Here’s a link to everything you need to know about importing antivenoms, it is considered an experimental drug and subject to a lot of typical government red tape in triplicate. Good luck. In the mean time, if you get bit, you’ll probably die. Please don’t.

http://www.fda.gov/cber/ind/antiven.htm

You must also obtain a USDA APHIS permit to import antivenom legally. Antivenom or antivenin are both acceptable.

First before you stock antivenom or antivenin (does it really matter?) make sure that there is no more recently formed and safer form of the antivenom for the species of snake or other animal you are stocking it for. Most individuals keep antivenom in either a very cold refrigerator or freezer but the manufacturer can tell you the temperature to keep it at. Be aware that antivenom has a very short shelf life and it is very very expensive. Also make sure that you stock the maximum amount that you may need. It is very rude and non-professional to make zoos and other individuals give up their potentially life saving antivenom for your own mistakes. Be aware that even some zoos keep expired antivenom because of the expense. What species is this for? Also be sure that you don't relax on security procedures just because you have antivenom. Some individuals may have allergic reactions to the antivenom that can be worse than the actual venom itself. I also suggest anyone keeping venomous animals in general learn first aid procedures and know how to respond if bitten. Make sure that one of your local hospitals have a doctor who knows how to administer and preferably have experience with antivenom. If possible have multiple choices. You don't want to be bitten while the doctor is on vacation.

Sorry this is so long, I hope it helps.

Mike

Thanks

Excellent post!
I especially like the part of asking zoo's to part with their supplies.

Thank you. I am a volunteer at an aquarium and I have a lot of connections in zoos and aquariums who explain to me that this has been the case to them several times. It leaves their employees extremely vulnerable. Remember though, no matter whether or not you have antivenom you should really take precautions to avoid having to use it. Sorry to ramble on.

Mike