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Just picked these up from Daniel Grubner, these are Central American garters and to my knowledge are the only ones in the states (all 3 species).

Scott

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Albino garter snakes

If one didn't know better, these could easily be confused w/ the patchnose snakes.

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Albino Garter snake

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Albino Garter Snake

Not garters but thought these would be appreciated here. These are similiar to garters but are egg layers, they get upwards of 4 feet is my understanding.

Scott

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Albino Garter Snake

Yea dude, these ones are awesome! Great score!

When you get a chance give me a call.

Later,
Dan

Neat, very unique, I would have to say the "scotti" is the most appealing to me, that would be really cool as an albino with that wide heavy dorsal band. Any reports of any natural occuring morphs down there? So did you name the "scotti' ?
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Jeff Benfer
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0.1 amelanistic p.h. carmel,stripe Pantherophis guttatus

Jeff,

Nice chatting w/ you this evening . I haven't heard of any morphs in Central America, would be cool if they do pop up at some point. The name "scotti" is the actual latin name for this species.

Scott

Yeah we need to stay in touch more now that the breeding season is over and things aren't quite so hectic, I always enjoy the conversation.
As far as the "scotti" goes: Jeeeeeeze, well it's about time someone named a garter species after you!!! lol how about T.felzeri? It has a nice sound doesn't it? lol
Sorry Scott, don't mean to embarass you, I know you're not like that, you are a very modest,humble, low key guy and I and everyone respects you for that.
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Jeff Benfer
1.0 cinnamon pastel Python regius
1.1 pastel Python regius
1.1 mojave Python regius
0.3 normal Python regius
1.3 Terrapene carolina thriunguis
2.3 Terrapene carolina carolina
4.1 Kinosternon baurii
1.1 Malaclemys terrapin terrapin
2.2 double het albino and anerythristicThamnophis sirtalis parietalis
1.0 anerythristic Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis
2.3 Iowa snow Thamnophis radix
0.2 het Christmas albino Thamnophis radix
1.1 double het cherry erythristic, albino Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 melanistic Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
2.0 66% het snow Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis
1.1 triple heterozygous for amelanistic,carmel, and stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 anerythristic motley Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 butter p.h. stripe Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 carmel stripe p.h. amel Pantherophis guttatus
0.1 amelanistic p.h. carmel,stripe Pantherophis guttatus

Yeah we need to stay in touch more now that the breeding season is over and things aren't quite so hectic, I always enjoy the conversation. As far as the "scotti" goes: Jeeeeeeze, well it's about time someone named a garter species after you!!! lol how about T.felzeri? It has a nice sound doesn't it? lol
Sorry Scott, don't mean to embarass you, I know you're not like that, you are a very modest,humble, low key guy and I and everyone respects you for that.

Always look forward to winters and the time off from caring for the collection (most of the collection anyways).

That latin name is ironic in a way, it would be cool to have a species named after ourselves.

you are a very modest,humble, low key guy and I and everyone respects you for that. Thankyou for these kind words.

Scott

I understand I'm bearding the lion of Garter Guru-ism here, but... They're yucky. Ish. There's no beauty like the gorgeous native we have here in North America.

Why don't you continue to concentrate on natives? Maybe I'm jumping the gun and being overly sensitive... But...

I've heard so much about you, read so much. Always about natives. I've always - from what I've read and from those that have gotten garters from you - held you in the highest esteem.

This... This... This smacks of Mitcham and his Hoggies.

Or, will you keep them pure? Do what should be done? Or are you thinking of going the way of kings and corns?

I don't mean to be antagonistic or start a heated disscusion. But I am concerned. I'd so hate to see you go "Extreme" and lose the care, that I've heard about from others, that you have for natives.

I just want you to stay my hero. I don't want to lose that.

>>Just picked these up from Daniel Grubner, these are Central American garters and to my knowledge are the only ones in the states (all 3 species).
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>>Scott
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mk
In Hog Heaven

I was offered the opportunity to acquire these and beng very rare in the hobby (don't know of anyone in the US working w/ these, if anyone does please let us know) I decided to acquire them. I will continue to work with the North american species. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, imo the scottis are striking.

This... This... This smacks of Mitcham and his Hoggies.

Or, will you keep them pure? Do what should be done? Or are you thinking of going the way of kings and corns?

Not sure what the Mitcham/hoggies comment is about but I am a purist and will never hybridize.

Scott

I understand I'm bearding the lion of Garter Guru-ism here, but... They're yucky. Ish. There's no beauty like the gorgeous native we have here in North America.

Why don't you continue to concentrate on natives? Maybe I'm jumping the gun and being overly sensitive... But...

I've heard so much about you, read so much. Always about natives. I've always - from what I've read and from those that have gotten garters from you - held you in the highest esteem.

This... This... This smacks of Mitcham and his Hoggies.

Or, will you keep them pure? Do what should be done? Or are you thinking of going the way of kings and corns?

I don't mean to be antagonistic or start a heated disscusion. But I am concerned. I'd so hate to see you go "Extreme" and lose the care, that I've heard about from others, that you have for natives.

I just want you to stay my hero. I don't want to lose that.

Scott, thank you for your understanding. I truly appreciate it.

Yes, you're correct. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I can appreciate your exitement and thrill having such rare garters.

Thank you for your calm explination, and your assurace you will continue with the NA natives. I truly did not mean to offend or ignite your anger. You're just my hero.

I guess... Well, I know, I put you on the spot since I have you way up on this pedestal. Thank you for being the kind of person I feel you are and repling to me in a manner that, to me, befits my hero.

I wish you much luck and happiness with your exciting new garters.

Thank you so much for understanding.

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>>I was offered the opportunity to acquire these and beng very rare in the hobby (don't know of anyone in the US working w/ these, if anyone does please let us know) I decided to acquire them. I will continue to work with the North american species. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, imo the scottis are striking.
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mk
In Hog Heaven

Scott,

Those are very cool. I especially like the eques scotti. I've never seen any of those three before. A few years ago someone was selling Grass Snakes at the Colombus Show and I regret not picking up a pair. It looks like you've got some nice new projects on your hands!

Tim

Tim,

Thanks, they are unique. There is very little info on the scotti species, I tried googling it and came up w/ only a couple links.

Scott

Oh very nice Scott!! I esp like the guy in the second post! Very unique!!
I am a fan of the grass snakes as well! Can't wait till you get babies. *wink*

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