What are the differences between Bloods, Borneo's, Sumatran pythons? Subspecies of one or closely related species in a complex?
Matthew
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Another beginers ?
jhnscrg
Sep 22, 2008 09:48 AM
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PHFaust
Sep 22, 2008 10:20 AM
>>What are the differences between Bloods, Borneo's, Sumatran pythons? Subspecies of one or closely related species in a complex?
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>> Matthew
Kissing cousins. 
Red Blood, Blood Python, Malaysian Blood - Python brongersmai
Black Blood or Sumatran Short Tail - Python curtus
Borneo Short tail (or borneo blood)(note sarawaks are a locality of the borneo STPs) - Python breitensteini
If I am wrong someone please correct me.
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Cindy
PHFaust
jmcghee
Sep 23, 2008 02:03 AM
What Cindy said... They are entirely seperate species.
jhnscrg
Sep 23, 2008 02:35 PM
Man, the splitters have been busy lately in the Taxonimist Club! LOL. So its a species complex now? Sorta like when they split the races of Naja Naja into FULL species..
I really need to get the Barkers Python books, everything I have access to is at least 10-15 years out of date!
Thanks,
Matthew
PHFaust
Sep 24, 2008 12:28 AM
>>Man, the splitters have been busy lately in the Taxonimist Club! LOL. So its a species complex now? Sorta like when they split the races of Naja Naja into FULL species..
>> I really need to get the Barkers Python books, everything I have access to is at least 10-15 years out of date!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matthew
Lord son, We are in the infancy of this stuff! Everything outdates really fast still.
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Cindy
PHFaust
jhnscrg
Sep 24, 2008 02:35 PM
LOL. Nah, I think more like senility phase of this stuff. Besides, since evolution is ongoing, things will always be more flexible than most people realize.
Matthew
jhnscrg
Sep 23, 2008 02:32 PM
So they are no longer considered a subspecies of P. curtus ( Bloods that is..). The older books have them listed as such.
Matthew
jhnscrg
Sep 29, 2008 01:59 PM
I'm hoping I'm not becoming a pest, but let me make a request. Can I see pics of Borneo's, Blood's & Sumatran Pythons. I want to compare them.. If its not a hassle that is..
Thanks!
Matthew
PHFaust
Sep 30, 2008 12:35 AM
PHFaust
Sep 30, 2008 12:37 AM
PHFaust
Sep 30, 2008 12:38 AM
Sorry, Someone else will have to post a pic of their normal red. I have none here. Just the borneos for now.
Also Rich can post a pic of a Borneo, Sarawak Locality. Otherwise, you may have to wait a few weeks for me to post that.
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Cindy
PHFaust
Rich_Crowley
Sep 30, 2008 12:23 PM
Here is a blood python (P brongersmai) and a couple photos of the sarawak locality of borneo python (P breitensteini).
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jhnscrg
Sep 30, 2008 06:41 PM
Gorgeous! Thanks for the shots, I do believe I have a "True" Blood now! LOL Though they are all OBVIOUSLY very close genetically speaking..
Matthew
jhnscrg
Sep 30, 2008 06:38 PM
Thanks Cindy,
That was very helpful & informative. I actually tried to look up some of the various Short-tails in The Classified section of Kingsnake.com. Not all the pics or ads were helpful or worked..
My new baby is a complete glutton, btw. Got of work early today on account of catching some human virus, so I grabbed some mice takeout on the way home. He beat the ratsnakes to his/hers!
Sincerely,
Matthew
