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What does this mean...if you breed it to a normal would you get all Hypos?? If you breed to a albino..would you get all sunglows? Thanks for your help

A Super Sunglow would be a Dominant Hypo Albino all babies produced from him to a normal would be Hypos het Albino and bred to an albino all babies would be hypo and albino so a full litter of Sunglows...
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Brandon Nixon

Your outcomes are correct but there is no such thing as a "Dominant Hypo Albino" By definition in boa constrictors, it is proven that ALL hypo's are dominant. Dominant refers to the strength of the mutant gene when compared to the normal one.

Simply stated the Hypo gene in BCI is stronger than the normal one and will be expressed in the heterozygous (and/or homozygous) form.

A Super Sunglow is a homozygous Hypo / homozygous Albino. Each and every offspring from that animal will receive a Hypo and Albino gene from that parent as those are the only genes it has to offer.

Like you already said, a Super Sunglow bred to a normal would yield a litter of DH sunglows (het Hypo, het Albino). Bred to an albino would yield a litter of Sunglows (het hypo, homozygous Albino).
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Dave,

I understand what you mean by it but by saying it is Dominant is the easiest way for people to "get it" wouldn't that mess someone up talking about hypos being hets lol I know we have had a fair share of discussions around here about hypos being het and people get them selfs all confused.
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Brandon Nixon

Brandon,

Yeah we've had lots of those discussions but IMO because some don't get it does not mean it's OK to mis-use the term dominant.

Dominant - 3: Genetics - the property of one of a pair of alleles or traits that suppresses expression of the other in the heterozygous condition.

Nowhere in the definition does it imply all babies will have the same effect.

And I do understand the usage, just strongly disagree.

Heterozygous - having the two alleles at corresponding loci on homologous chromosomes different for one or more loci

Homozygous - having the two genes at corresponding loci on homologous chromosomes identical for one or more loci

And YES, animals can be "het" for dominant traits. Have to be either heterozygous or homozygous for each and every gene pair!!

Het Hypo for example CLEARLY states the animal has one hypo gene and one non-hypo at that individual locus.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Dave,

I know, Dominant animals would be such as those like Spider Ball Pythons, or even Arabesques...
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Brandon Nixon

My point exactly, you know how it works. Don't succomb to propogating the incorrect info. It's a lot easier for people to learn it correctly then to learn it wrong and have to reteach themselves in the future. I for one was "taught" by these threads way back when - that hypo in BCI was a co-dominant trait - WRONG!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Just because some can't spell doesn't mean that we need to change the dictionary to come around to their way of thinking.

People will always be confused, just like there are people still thinking Hypo is a Co-Dominant trait. Even though I have said for years it didn't fit the bill...that's another story.

Being a Military man Brandon you should know this, we mold the person into a soldier not mold the service to the civilians. You either pull up your pants, cut your hair and obey the rules or go back to your parents basement and grow up.

No offense to those that may still live in their parents basement...
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Jeremy Payne
JB Reptile
Specializing in Boa Morph's

1.0 Snow "Khal"
0.2 Triple Het Moonglow "Khal"
0.1 Orange Tail Hypo Het Leopard
1.1 Double Het "Sharp" Snow
1.0 Ghost
0.1 Possible Super Hypo
0.1 DH Ghost
1.1 "Khal" Albino
1.0 Hypomelenistic
1.3 Pastel Hypo
0.1 Suriname/Columbian cross
0.1 Anerthrystic

Thanks for the info...i thought the same but wanted to make sure..

I have to admit Brandon what your saying ,this is how I learned. It made it simpler for me. Then as I understood things I was able to read up and combine what I knew with what was really the distinct truth. I agree with you Brandon in using these simplified terms .This can simplify the learning process. Het Hypo is very hard to understand as a newbie. I'm admittedly not the sharpest knife in the drawer. So sometimes things will take longer to sink in. I think it important to gain a basic understanding of genetics. You can use that basic understanding to get by. Although if you really care about what your learning and doing. You will continue to read a teach yourself the facts about genetics and how they really work.
. . . . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

>Het Hypo is very hard to understand as a newbie.

Here's one way to do it.

Homozygous = the two genes in a gene pair are the same.

Heterozygous = the two genes in a gene pair are not the same.

So a homozygous hypo boa has two hypo genes, and a het hypo has a hypo gene paired with a non-hypo (AKA normal) gene.

(picture) = an example of a homozygous hypo boa.

(picture) = an example of a heterozygous hypo.

(picture) = a normal boa.

It helps if the homozygous hypo looks more like the normal boa than the heterozygous hypo does.

Paul Hollander

Perhaps Paul had there been people as well versed in genetics as you and Dave. Plus both of you are equally as good at explaining these different genetic possibilities . Perhaps if I had these proper explanations a few years back it would have made it much easier on me when I was trying to figure out this genetic stuff . LOL
. . . . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz
Boas By Klevitz

Paul was a huge help to me in my learning process!!!!!

Thanks again Paul!!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats