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Genetics

blackjaxboa Sep 22, 2008 06:28 PM

New to posting on forum, but thanks to everyone for all the info I have learned from reading your posts. I have a quick (probably elementary) question about triple het for moonglow boas. If I have a triple het and I breed it to a double het, is there a small probability that I could get a moonglow? My understanding is that the hypo gene is co-dom and they both don't need to be hypo. Any info would be great.

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Bighurt Sep 22, 2008 06:41 PM

>>New to posting on forum, but thanks to everyone for all the info I have learned from reading your posts. I have a quick (probably elementary) question about triple het for moonglow boas. If I have a triple het and I breed it to a double het, is there a small probability that I could get a moonglow? My understanding is that the hypo gene is co-dom and they both don't need to be hypo. Any info would be great.

Yes

Hypo is a Dominant Trait so long as one parent has it your good to go.

Motley would be a Co-Dominant trait, Where the Homozygous recessive, Heterozygous and Homozygous Dominant expressions all have a different visual expression.
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Jeremy Payne
JB Reptile
Specializing in Boa Morph's

1.0 Snow "Khal"
0.2 Triple Het Moonglow "Khal"
0.1 Orange Tail Hypo Het Leopard
1.1 Double Het "Sharp" Snow
1.0 Ghost
0.1 Possible Super Hypo
0.1 DH Ghost
1.1 "Khal" Albino
1.0 Hypomelenistic
1.3 Pastel Hypo
0.1 Suriname/Columbian cross
0.1 Anerthrystic

rainbowsrus Sep 22, 2008 06:45 PM

YES, you can get a moonglow from that. Between the tao animals tere are 5 available morph genes, The odds, while slim at 1/16, are possible. I had a litter of four including one moonglow.

Hypo is a dominant trait menaing you cannot clearly tell the diffeence between heterozygous hypos (hypo//normal) and homozygous hypos (hypo//hypo)


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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Bighurt Sep 22, 2008 06:49 PM

Sure just rub Luna in or faces.....
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Jeremy Payne
JB Reptile
Specializing in Boa Morph's

1.0 Snow "Khal"
0.2 Triple Het Moonglow "Khal"
0.1 Orange Tail Hypo Het Leopard
1.1 Double Het "Sharp" Snow
1.0 Ghost
0.1 Possible Super Hypo
0.1 DH Ghost
1.1 "Khal" Albino
1.0 Hypomelenistic
1.3 Pastel Hypo
0.1 Suriname/Columbian cross
0.1 Anerthrystic

rainbowsrus Sep 22, 2008 06:54 PM

I thought it was the perfect thread for me to respond to.....


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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Bighurt Sep 22, 2008 06:55 PM

I expected it for both genetic and Luna reason's....

When is she going to come visit Milo,
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Jeremy Payne
JB Reptile
Specializing in Boa Morph's

1.0 Snow "Khal"
0.2 Triple Het Moonglow "Khal"
0.1 Orange Tail Hypo Het Leopard
1.1 Double Het "Sharp" Snow
1.0 Ghost
0.1 Possible Super Hypo
0.1 DH Ghost
1.1 "Khal" Albino
1.0 Hypomelenistic
1.3 Pastel Hypo
0.1 Suriname/Columbian cross
0.1 Anerthrystic

rainbowsrus Sep 22, 2008 07:00 PM

February 31st!!!


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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Morgans Boas Sep 22, 2008 08:56 PM

email about 90% of the people with ads in the classified section and educate them so that they understand what they're even posting. I wish that I could explain things as easy as you guys. It gets so old seeing ads for codom tail stripes from a single breeding to a normal, or het for coral, or paradox Kahls that are "possible t caramels" , or possible dominant Hypos. The genetic language in the Boa world, has become modern day ebonics.
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Snake room janitor

Bighurt Sep 22, 2008 09:10 PM

>>email about 90% of the people with ads in the classified section and educate them so that they understand what they're even posting. I wish that I could explain things as easy as you guys. It gets so old seeing ads for codom tail stripes from a single breeding to a normal, or het for coral, or paradox Kahls that are "possible t caramels" , or possible dominant Hypos. The genetic language in the Boa world, has become modern day ebonics.
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>>Snake room janitor

Unfortunately and I mean no offense to anyone, but the hobby of Boa morph's has surpassed the educated hobbiest and entered the world of house flipping....or the cornsnake...

I assure you I myself am here to stay, as I have a love of the boa. If I didn't make any money and I don't I'd still breed boa's. It's a fascinating hobby many take for granted...

The classified section has tripled in pages in the last few years. What one could once keep track of by viewing every other day has become a game of hours. It's the QVC of the boa world...."for the next ten minutes".

Oh the benefit of the internet where must we draw the line.

I charge all users to ask for references, photo proof, written warrantee, whatever. With so many new names and faces its hard to pick out those that are dis-honest or uneducated.

Cheers
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Jeremy Payne
JB Reptile
Specializing in Boa Morph's

1.0 Snow "Khal"
0.2 Triple Het Moonglow "Khal"
0.1 Orange Tail Hypo Het Leopard
1.1 Double Het "Sharp" Snow
1.0 Ghost
0.1 Possible Super Hypo
0.1 DH Ghost
1.1 "Khal" Albino
1.0 Hypomelenistic
1.3 Pastel Hypo
0.1 Suriname/Columbian cross
0.1 Anerthrystic

jackjebus Sep 22, 2008 09:57 PM

figured Id correct it just so you can have an educated spelling of the specific lines of animals you own.
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Morgans Boas Sep 22, 2008 10:01 PM

-------- BURN !!! ,lol
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Snake room janitor

blackjaxboa Sep 23, 2008 11:47 AM

Thanks for the clarification. As I know there are several different morphs that can come from this pair, leads to another question. How can someone tell the difference between a snow and a moonglow?

Bighurt Sep 23, 2008 12:59 PM

>>Thanks for the clarification. As I know there are several different morphs that can come from this pair, leads to another question. How can someone tell the difference between a snow and a moonglow?

Most go with eye color but, there is a diffence is saddle shape/color as well as when they grow older snow's tend to yellow...moonglow's don't have the same occur.
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Jeremy Payne
JB Reptile
Specializing in Boa Morph's

1.0 Snow "Kahl"
0.2 Triple Het Moonglow "Kahl"
0.1 Orange Tail Hypo Het Leopard
1.1 Double Het "Sharp" Snow
1.0 Ghost
0.1 Possible Super Hypo
0.1 DH Ghost
1.1 "Kahl" Albino
1.0 Hypomelenistic
1.3 Pastel Hypo
0.1 Suriname/Columbian cross
0.1 Anerthrystic

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