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Damage from heating source?

nightserpent Sep 23, 2008 09:08 AM

Hello,

A few years back, I adopted a ball python from the local ASPCA that had been through some rough times. The previous owner was using a "hot rock" that severely burned 75% of the python's underside, which stressed it out enough to go off feeding (not too hard to do with a ball python, I know). I'm happy to report that the python has healed up beautifully after enough care and sheddings, and he's pretty much a regular eater now. This is my first BP, though I've had a number of boas over the decades.

However, I wonder if the "hot rock" has a longer lasting effect than just the external burns. I feed him thawed prey on tongs, and he is one of the worst shots I have ever seen! Perhaps I am thinking this because its the first snake with heat pits, and the thawed prey is not warm enough? The tongs are about 12", I wonder if the tongs are simply too short and he is getting mixed signals from the heat of my hand? Back in the day when I used live prey, my boa would snag them out of the air before they hit the ground, so perhaps I am simply accustomed to a good shot?

I couldn't help but think that the long intense heat of the "hot rock" might have damaged his heat sensors, eyes... or, I hate to even think it, perhaps his brain? He moves, sheds, drinks and eats fine, and his temperament is what you'd expect from a ball python (calm but a little shy). But, when it comes to recognizing prey and striking, well, something seems off to me.

I'd very much appreciate any feedback or insight anyone has to share.

sincerely,

~Paul

Replies (6)

SooperScoot Sep 23, 2008 02:41 PM

I dont think this is from the heat rock. Ive always known balls as having horrible aim.

nightserpent Sep 23, 2008 03:18 PM

Thanks for your reply, SuperScoot! The belly was so badly burned (picture a giant scab covering 75% of the underside), I wondered if that kind of exposure to heat might damage some organs.

Well, I've never been know for having good aim, so I can't hold it against him for having lousy aim as well.

anuraanman Sep 24, 2008 12:13 PM

not much to add here but I'm inclined to agree. Mine is pretty young but it often misses twice before finally latching on.

dekaybrown Sep 25, 2008 02:01 PM

Our BP is a bad aim also
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Regards,
Wayne A. Harvey

1.0.0 Ball Python - Python regius "Cane" Rescue
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0.0.1 Thamnophis butleriButler's Garter Snake
0.0.4 Thamnophis proximus orariusCoastal Ribbons
0.0.16 Thamnophis sirtalis - newborn Eastern Garter babies 7/11/08
0.0.17 Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis HET Anerythristic Scott Felzer stock.
0.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis Eastern Snow "Snowflake"
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0.1.0 Storeria occipitomaculata - Red Belly snake (Her children were raised & released)
0.0.1 Amelanistic Corn Snake "CY" Sub-adult CB
1.0.0. Pueblan Milk snake "Oreo" adult CB
1.0.0. ASIAN GREEN SNAKE 3' WC Cyclophiops major"Limon"
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1.1.3. Green Anole "Crystal" & "Chris" WC dropping eggs fast!
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2.1.0. calico RATS
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More herps than I could ever list out back on the land.

nightserpent Sep 26, 2008 09:03 AM

Though I am sorry to hear that everyone's BP seems to be a lousy shot as well, it's a relief to hear that this is fairly normal. I appreciate those who weighed in, thanks!

How long should a feeding tong be for thawed food? My BP is 4 feet, give or take, and is almost exclusively a mouser. My tongs are about 12", and I have wondered if the heat from my hand is compounding the problem.

dekaybrown Oct 02, 2008 07:23 AM

Yes, We have a BP, and if the mouse is warm, he hits perfectly.

If the mouse is cold, he aims for my hand!

That row of heat pits is used to home in on prey.

Kind regards,
Wayne A. Harvey
-----
Regards,
Wayne A. Harvey

1.0.0 Ball Python - Python regius "Cane" Rescue
0.1.9 Eastern MilkSnake WC "Carmella" adult super sweet temperment (Eggs all hatched!)
1.3.13 Storeria dekayi Casper, Xena, Athena, Sharon & Kids
2.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis - eastern Garters
0.0.1 Thamnophis HybridAlbino Checkered Normal eastern
2.0.0 Thamnophis sirtalis - eastern Garters (xtreme orange phase)
1.1.0 Thamnophis RADIX - Snow Hets
0.1.0 Thamnophis RADIX - Christmas Albino
0.0.1 Thamnophis sirtalis - Red Phase Eastern Garter red and white stripes
0.0.1 Thamnophis butleriButler's Garter Snake
0.0.4 Thamnophis proximus orariusCoastal Ribbons
0.0.16 Thamnophis sirtalis - newborn Eastern Garter babies 7/11/08
0.0.17 Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis HET Anerythristic Scott Felzer stock.
0.1.0 Thamnophis sirtalis Eastern Snow "Snowflake"
0.0.1 Thamnophis sirtalis infernalis California Red Sided (R.I.P. little guy)
1.2.0 Thamnophis pickeringi - Puget Sound Garter "Sky" (adult, Sky blue) 2 females recently aquired.
0.0.1 Nerodia sipedon - Water Snake - "Aqua" adult WC
0.1.0 Storeria occipitomaculata - Red Belly snake (Her children were raised & released)
0.0.1 Amelanistic Corn Snake "CY" Sub-adult CB
1.0.0. Pueblan Milk snake "Oreo" adult CB
1.0.0. ASIAN GREEN SNAKE 3' WC Cyclophiops major"Limon"
0.0.1. Savannah Monitor "CHOMPER" Growing fast!
1.1.3. Green Anole "Crystal" & "Chris" WC dropping eggs fast!
1.0.0. K9 "ACE" Black Cockapoo
0.2.0. Feline"Felix"(R.I.P. 4/27/08) "Kaja" & "Silver"
2.1.0. calico RATS
2.4.?? Mice - Feeder farm - Crickets / fish
More herps than I could ever list out back on the land.

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