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Snake tug-o-war

senorsnake Sep 26, 2008 04:15 PM

Just thought I'd share...

I went to a local museum, and they have a pair of small water snakes ( can't recall the kind). They were both in the same enclosure... there was one goldfish in the tank. One snake grabbed it, and then the other snake grabbed the other side. They fought over it quite roughly in the water, eventually pulling it in half and each getting their share...

Coolest feeding I ever saw!
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1.1 96, 04 Het Albino - "Suzie" & "Lumpy"
0.1 03 Poss. Het Albino - "Ami"
0.1 05 Super Salmon - "CreamSicle"
0.1 04 Anery Het Snow- "Squelchy"
1.0 04 DH-Sunglow - "Dwayne"
1.0 06 TH-Moonglow - "Gargamel"
1.2 01 BRBs- "Gobball", "Larva" & "Tofu"

Replies (4)

Luke9815 Sep 26, 2008 05:14 PM

Thats pretty cool....I went to a pet store once and they were feeding ribbon snakes feeder fish and they'd do the same thing except they'd actually swallow the other snake...then regurge the snake....all still alive at the end too. Craziest and stupidest feeding I've seen...
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Luke Martin
Bronze Serpent Reptiles

fgs Sep 26, 2008 05:56 PM

I went to a pet shop about 10 years ago and found a cage where someone had placed one mouse in with two baby ball pythons. I found one of the ball pythons half way down the other one's throght. A few months before I had succesfully given mouth to mouth resuscitation to one of my milk snakes after it had been accidentally killed and eaten by one of my California King Snakes. It took me about 20 minutes to revive the ball python, but in the end both snakes were no worse for ware.

I ended up writing an article for Reptiles Magazine about the Sinaloan Milk snake that I had given CPR to after it had been eaten by my king snake. They ended up publishing it in the Living With Reptiles section. Here is a copy of the manuscript. You can find a copy of the original story as it appeared in Reptiles Magazine, including a photo of the two snakes that were involved in the story by going to the articles page of my web site.

Lazarus, the Sinaloan Milksnake
Reptiles Magazine
Living With Reptiles
Volume 6 Number 3
March 1998
My name is Brian Gundy. The story I'm about to relate is true. My partner, Mike Austin, and I are a team of snake breeders located in the San Jose area of California. We have been subscribers to REPTILES magazine for years, have never read about anything like this and thought REPTILES readers would find this story interesting.

A family with two small children moved in across the street, and it didn't take long for them to find out that I had snakes. On March 24, 1997, Allison and her two children came over for a tour of my snake collection.

I was showing them my colubrids when Allison noticed two snakes together in the same cage. I immediately panicked when I realized the Plexiglas partition that separated one of the California Kingsnakes had fallen over, allowing the Sinaloan Milksnake to enter the kingsnake's cage.

My worst fears were realized when I quickly opened the cage door to find the Sinaloan Milksnake halfway down the throat of the California Kingsnake. A very sick feeling came over me as I removed the two snakes from the cage. Not only was I sick about the loss of the Sinaloan, but was also concerned for my neighbor's 4-year-old daughter and her 7-year-old son. Just minutes before, they had touched a snake for the first time, and now they were watching one being eaten alive.

I quickly, but calmly, picked up the two snakes and tried to loosen the grip the California Kinsnake had on the Sinaloan Milksnake. I gently opened the kingsnake's mouth and began to slowly remove the 10 to 12 inches of the Sinaloan Milksnake from its throat.

The Sinaloan showed no signs of life. Its mouth was wide open and its body was limp. Sweat started dripping down my face, and I apologized to my neighbors for having to witness this tragic event.

I had worked at an animal hospital for nine years and have had CPR classes. I thought I should at least try to revive the snake. I first laid it down on the floor to see if there was any movement at all, but there was none. I then took the Sinaloan and put its head in the palm of my hand. I wrapped my fingers around its head, brought it to my mouth and gave three short breaths into the snake's mouth. Then I ran my hand from the front to the back in the area of the lungs and then gave more breaths. I continued this procedure for approximately 3-4 minutes without any reaction from the snake.

My neighbors watched with great interest as I tried to revive the snake. At one point during the rescue, I considered putting the Sinaloan back in with the California Kingsnake's cage. After all, it was a good meal. But I stuck with it.

Five to 7 minutes went by before I saw any positive reaction. I laid the snake on a flat surface and saw slight movement, almost like a spasm. A few minutes later, I saw the snake trying to stick its tongue out. I remember coaching the snake, "Come on buddy, you can do it."

It was interesting to see my neighbors cheering the snake on as well. I was about 10 minutes into the rescue when things started happening. The snake continued trying to stick its tongue out and he would eventually bring it back in. I found that if I pinched its head, it would move its head back. So I stopped giving it mouth to mouth and concentrated on stimulating movement.

My neighbor was so impressed with the whole experience that she told her kids that they had just witnessed a miracle.

The snake came back to 100% of its vitality within a couple of hours. I called my partner and told him what had happened. "Brian, only you would consider giving a snake mouth-to-mouth," he said. Mike also suggested that we call this snake Lazarus. Lazarus ate a mouse the day after the incident and is doing fine.

I hope you enjoyed the story.

Brian

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Brian Gundy

www.for-goodness-snakes.com

OKReptileRescue Sep 28, 2008 01:23 AM

if only they knew....

I think I'd do the same thing under the circumstances... not sure about that scenario with one of the big girls but who knows.... I've done some wild things to protect and save the animals around here....

cool story!

~Beth
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fgs Sep 28, 2008 02:18 AM

I don't know if you went to my web site and saw the photo of the Sinaloan Milk Snake and the California Kingsnake on the cross, but if you haven't you should do so, it's on the articles page.

When I wrote the article for Reptiles Magazine they asked that I show a photo of the snakes that were involved so I had this strange idea to take the two snakes to the local cemetary. Since I had named the Sinaloan Milk Snake Lazarus I thought it would be kind of cool to find a toombstone at a cemetary with a cross on it to show the two snakes draped over it.

So there I was at this Cemetary with my four year old son draping these two snakes over someone's toombstone. As I was taking the photos a San Jose Policeman drove by in his patrol car. He stopped for a few seconds and watched while I snapped a few more photos of these two snakes. Before I could even think what this must have looked like to the officer he got out of his car and ran to where I was. It was obvious that he was very upset. He finally stood in front of me with a very angry voice and asked "WHAT IN THE HECK DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING". I paused for a seccond wondering how could I defuse the situation then just blurted out. Well you see officer this snake here ate this snake, I gave the snake that was eaten mouth to mouth resuscitation and revived it. Ive written an article for Reptiles Magazine and they have asked for a photograph of the two snakes. Since I named the snake I saved Lazarus I thought it would be kind of cool to find a toombstone with a cross on it as a back drop for the photos. After I had explained myself he was speechless. Then out of the blue he said WOW!!! that is a really cool. He then told me that he thought I was some kind of religious fanatic doing a snake chant. As he left I heard him say wait till I tell the guys at the station about this one.

I wanted to let you know that our church will be praying for Lexie tomorrow. I hope she's doing well.

She's sure a cuttie.

Brian
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Brian Gundy

www.for-goodness-snakes.com

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