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I was just curious what people think is the most valuable corn snake project there is in the hobby moneywise w/ morphs. it was a thought i had earlier while looking at a wholesale list.

thanks
Adam

p.s.- i am not planning on puchasing anything, it just comes from curiosity

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probably something new or different....
new is Terrazo, and i know there are more.. i'm just stuck..

different is: pied bloodreds... cinder, ultra/ultramel, etc.
of course stripes are pretty popular right now...
but i'm not a "Big" time breeder, so i'm sure others will have input.
personally, i'd like to see a striped amel cinder but i dont have the money for the project
~kin
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Most likely either scaleless or tesseras, and any combination there of.
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South Texas Herps

I am not sure of what the latter is, any pics? explanations?

thanks
Adam
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Google search "tessera cornsnake" and click on the second link, it may help you out.
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South Texas Herps

scaleless aren't worth anything to me.

I'm not saying people shouldn't breed them, it's just to me, scales are such a fundamental part of what a snake is, I don't want one without scales.

I expect their value will crash fast because there are a lot of people who really don't want it. Hopefully, that gene doesn't make it undocumented into any if the corns I want to work with, I really don't want it, and I'd probably sell off any snakes I had that was found to carry it.
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I'd say that crazy-looking mostly white wildcaught one that was posted here would have the most potential to make money (assuming that its traits are genetically inheritable). After all, there's only one of those.
The prices of a number of morphs have dropped dramatically the past few years, so what's expensive now may not be "all that" in a couple of years.

Tim

Third Eye

I saw that crazy looking white wild corn over on FHF. That'd really be something if it is inheritable.

What's this tessera corn everyone is talking about on this thread?

Top end from what I've seen so far is the pied sided bloodreds and hypo pied sided bloodreds.

it looks like a striped miami or a striped rosy rat snake is the best i could explain it.... google "terrazzo corn" and lately there have been a few on the kingsnake.com forums.
i would have posted a pic, but i'd need to get permission and then give credit where credit was due.. and i'm just being lazy

~kin
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Terrazzos and tesseras are 2 completely different genes. They look and are inherited completely different. There is not a lot of info on this forum, but I am sure that plenty of info can be found on another forum somewhere.
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South Texas Herps

yes, i know they are 2 different things...i misread the question- sorry

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Thanks Mike for mention the Tesseras and Terrazzos. Since I have them both, I gotta say that the Tessera project is going to be really great since they are the very first truly codominant or dominant mutation in cornsnakes. - Kj, Don & I have some high hopes for them this coming season.

Here is a link to KJ's website with the description & pics of our animals: http://www.kjunsnakehaven.com/index1.htm

Graham

I just googled it up.

WOW!!! I didn't even know that THAT existed!!

That could definitly be the start of something.

Just two cents...about all it's worth

I've seen some morph fads kind of come and go, and high prices along with it...I remember when candy canes were hot, then lavender, then motley, now stripes, and pied is up and coming. The market is fickle. There is so much to choose from that what appeals to some may not appeal to others. I'd pay more for a really nice Candy Cane or Sunglow, while motleys, pieds, and anything with heavy yellow doesn't really appeal to me.

But that's just the opinion of one individual, and not the market in general. What is new is generally worth more.

There's that WC pied corn that was found this year - if that proves to be genetic, that's going to be a gold mine.

As far as morph values, I think it can be a mistake to put too high a value on something just because it is a morph - IE there are lavenders and then there are lavenders, the quality of the corn apart from the morph makes a huge difference in the market value IMHO - and if you are able to get high quality stock and skilled enough to improve upon it via selective breeding, you can keep the value of your stock up much longer.

It can be hard with corns because they change so much as they grow - and sometimes the very best looking adults are the ugliest out of the egg, so I guess it takes some experience to know what to look for in your holdbacks and purchases.
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