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I've read on another forum that the German giant are partially P. barbata. They said the cross make them bigger than your average P. vitticep.

ive often heard this rumor too and i always wondered if it was true or not...im intrigued to learn if this is a fact rather than a rumor
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1.0.0 Frilled Dragon - Frank
0.0.1 Rhinoceros Iguana - Mo
2.1.21 Bearded Dragons - Magellan, Galileo, Lizzy, all the babies

That's interesting. Weiss reptiles (no longer in business) was the first to import them. I have a G. Giant x Orange phase that I bought from them 8 yrs. ago.
"Arnie" is a tough and very large old lizard.

Always heard the German Giant line of dragons are pure Inland bearded dragons who have been bred more for size and vigor than color.
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PHLdyPayne

idk if this is any help to the question but i think this may be useful
http://www.beardeddragon.org/bjive/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=69194&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&view=print
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1.0.0 Frilled Dragon - Frank
0.0.1 Rhinoceros Iguana - Mo
2.1.21 Bearded Dragons - Magellan, Galileo, Lizzy, all the babies

I agree with LdyPayne. There's no Barbata in German Giant. Barbata has different characteristics none of which is evident in the claimed German Giants. It's so silly, "morphs" are names made up by breeders. So if a breeder has a clutch of yellow dragons they can refer to them and sell them as "lemon" or "sunshine" if they choose. I took a rescue earlier that the owner told me was a "tequila sunrise" lol. So someone in Germany bred some Vitticeps that had large babies and they just chose to call them " German Giants" I have some babies that are the cross of a rescue and a rescue maybe I should call them the "rescue square" morph. lol.

Truth is that there is a chance that most of the dragons we have today have barbata blood. They arent like the Rankins where the differences genetically is as far off. I have a breeding pair of Barbatas, and they dont make "mules". The first "bearded dragons" imported were actually both the Barbata and the vitticeps, but do to the barbatas being less healthy in captivity they werent as popular. They didnt become "rare" till Australia stopped exportation. Then the few keepers who managed to keep them alive in captivity started running out of bloodlines and they started to die off. Truth be told they do interbreed in the wild, and yes I know for a fact 100% that they do. I get video from family in Australia of them and they sell them there as much as we sell the vitticeps. My cousin lives there and breeds them with vitticeps all the time. So while we dont know for sure where they were cross bred I do know they are in some of the older lines of dragons. This could be the german giants. They do have suttle differences such as the extended row of spikes that reach all the way down the forarms and the sulfur mouths, they are a little longer not even that much, and they are usually thinner, other than that they are so so so simalar, and genetically a much closer match than rankins, or minimas.