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So I picked up my new pair of Hypo Brooksi Kingsnakes today! I am pretty stoked! The guy said that he got them from another guy who said they were 2007 hatched. I don't think that they are 07's though because they are only 15 inches long and still on fuzzies?? Anyways the first pic is of the female and the second pic is of the male! Tell me what you thin................

Since it was cleaning day I thought I would throw in som OT pics of my pair of black pines! I love these snakes and can't waite to breed them! I don't understand why they are not more popular? Anyways the first two pics are of my female, she is a 2007 and then the last pic is of my male and he is a 2008! Enjoy

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"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an egg-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

1.1 Black Pinesnake
1.0 Albino Argentina Horned "Pacman" Frog

I think you did quite well on that pair of hypos. They are exceptional!

Thanks! I am trying to decide if they are going to turn out mostly yellow or have some orange in them when they turn into adults?
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"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an egg-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

1.1 Black Pinesnake
1.1 Hypo Brooksi Kingsnakes
1.0 Albino Argentina Horned "Pacman" Frog

Those are some great looking hypo brooks! Black pines are quite popular, I cannot produce enough to satisfy the demand for them - they sell out very quickly.

Tim

Third Eye

Hey thanks, they are beauties! What I meant about the Black Pines not being popular was that it seems like alot of people don't breed them and when you do find someone who does they are already sold out! Sometimes I wish more people bred them. I love mine and think they are great snakes and cannot waite to breed them!

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"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an egg-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

1.1 Black Pinesnake
1.1 Hypo Brooksi Kingsnakes
1.0 Albino Argentina Horned "Pacman" Frog

What many people do not realize is the Black Pine is one of the rarest snakes on the continent in the wild. Terry Vandeventer collected the first one with the intent of breeding them and it took him years to find a mate. They're very simlilar in that aspect to finding LA pines in the wild.
I have also heard of many breeders mentioning male heavy and small clutches? This may also play a part in them not being as available as other Pines.
It seems only Northerns and Mexican Pines were in demand when compared to numbers of people keeping Gophers and Bulls. Many locale lovers chose the Northerns since many were locale specific. Pines are my favorite, my breeder female Southern is my favorite snake in my collection.
Hope you found that interesting haha!
Tom Stevens
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TomsSnakes.com

you know what I find that very interesting! I guess you do learn something new every day!
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"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an egg-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

1.1 Black Pinesnake
1.1 Hypo Brooksi Kingsnakes
1.0 Albino Argentina Horned "Pacman" Frog

All of those snakes are really nice. Good luck with them.
Tom Stevens
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TomsSnakes.com