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Need help with genetics?

lizardboy696969 Sep 06, 2003 06:49 PM

OK so heres my question if i have 2 100% het albinos (m/f) and i breed them what will the babys be? normal,normal het, albino right so what are the chances that you get an albino? Have you tried this? if so what was your outcome? thanks for the help.
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Lizardboy
1.4 leopard geckos (6 leo eggs cooking)
3.3 bearded dragons

Replies (17)

kryolla Sep 06, 2003 07:26 PM

A het X het will give you out of 4 eggs

1 normal
2 100% hets
1 albino
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grcforce327 Sep 06, 2003 07:55 PM

If thats the case,tell me why my two het females bred by my het male(all from SnakeKeeper stock)had a total of one albino out of twelve eggs?If you don't have the proper info,don't give any! When you breed het to het(albino),each egg has a 25% chance of being an albino.The normal looking ones are sixtysix and two-thirds percent chance of being hets!Very simple!

csiviper Sep 06, 2003 08:06 PM

i dont know who you think you are but there is no need to be a prick.people give the best advise that they can. as far as your clutches you just got unlucky. i know of clutches from het to het that yielde no homozygous. it is the luck of the draw with each egg but statistically if the gods are in your favor you should get 25% homozygous but there are no guarentees.

BallBoutique Sep 06, 2003 08:14 PM

Next year you might get six albinos out of twelve.
25% is a rule of thumb. Ask Dan he will tell you the same thing.
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Vtherpster Sep 06, 2003 08:49 PM

the python Gods withheld your other three albinos until you develop some manors : )

grcforce327 Sep 06, 2003 09:46 PM

Telling someone they "WILL" get one albino out of four eggs as the first person stated is wrong,and in no way the same as saying each egg has a 25% "CHANCE" of being an albino.Now he thinks he'll positively get a albino if he has four viable eggs!You need to read, vary carefully,the advice being given!

Vtherpster Sep 06, 2003 10:08 PM

the chances.The chances are you will get.....
The same answer any mendellan genetic chart will provide.
And the answer was without the unneeded hostility.Maybe your chances will provide all male hets next time, I have my fingers crossed. : ) and hopefully the market price will plunge by then. Have a nice day

grcforce327 Sep 07, 2003 07:35 AM

If that is the case,why is the same person,obviously confused by the wrong advice,still asking if he will"POSITIVELY" get an albino(ckeck below)?If the info was correct in the first place,their would be no reason to ask again!!!!As for the market,I think the spider ball market will hold its value for many years!I'm having a great day!Thanks!

Vtherpster Sep 07, 2003 09:07 PM

advice. If you plan to sell animals on this market you might want to be a little kinder in your approach. I would never buy an animal from a total A hole and I doubt anyone else would either.

EmberBall Sep 07, 2003 04:45 PM

A het to het breeding for an albino, or any simple recessive gene animal, will give you approximately 25% albinos, 25% normals and 50% hets, but the problem is, with the hets, you will not know which are the hets and which are the normals, so you will have albinos, and possible hets for offspring. This all depends on how many eggs hatch, and if you have better karma than the "loud" guy who posted here.

PS- remove the word in quotes above, and insert any word you like and make it a good one

Dave

kryolla Sep 06, 2003 10:36 PM

hehehe you got 1 out of 12 it is people like you that deserve the odds like that. Let me guess you bought 1.2 hoping to make some money by what people told you about the 1 in 4 ODDS when in reality you are the dum a$$ that did not understand the punnett square and only produced 1 albino and is pissed off. Do you research before you take the plunge so next time you wont loose your temper.

Thomas S. Sep 06, 2003 11:11 PM

>>If thats the case,tell me why my two het females bred by my het male(all from SnakeKeeper stock)had a total of one albino out of twelve eggs?If you don't have the proper info,don't give any! When you breed het to het(albino),each egg has a 25% chance of being an albino.The normal looking ones are sixtysix and two-thirds percent chance of being hets!Very simple!

You got exactly what you deserve.
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JMHO, FWIW, YMMV.

lizardboy696969 Sep 06, 2003 07:58 PM

Will you positivly get an albino from a hetxhet?
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Lizardboy
1.4 leopard geckos (6 leo eggs cooking)
3.3 bearded dragons

Josh06 Sep 06, 2003 09:22 PM

>>Will you positivly get an albino from a hetxhet?
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>>Lizardboy
>>1.4 leopard geckos (6 leo eggs cooking)
>>3.3 bearded dragons
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b3napoleon Sep 06, 2003 10:04 PM

Ok I dont think you get this yet. If you have het x het, these are your chances. 25% albino, 50% hets, 25% normal. You will not positively get anything. It is all "luck of the draw", whatever the "pyhton gods" decide to give you. Those are just your chances. Some clutches from hetxhet will have all albinos, some will have no albinos. BP breeding is funny that way, one year you will get everything you hoped for and more, another year you will get a bunch of poss hets. The only time you are guaranteed albinos is from an albino x albino breeding, in which case all of them will be albinos. Any other combo, it is just a chance.

pinatamonkey Sep 07, 2003 04:49 PM

Think of it like flipping coins or rolling dice. If you flip a coin 10 times you 'should' get 5 heads, 5 tails (perfect results), however as I'm sure you know, you don't always (or even most of the time) get the 'perfect' result. So you could get 3 heads, 7 tails, 10 head, 0 tails, etc., and all the combinations are in the realm of possibility, with some results being more common than others. It's the same with genetics. Each egg has a 25% chance of being albino - you could, out of 4 eggs, get 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4 albinos.
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BillLubak Sep 06, 2003 07:54 PM

You should end up with 25% of the litter being albino and the rest of the litter 66% possible hets. Out of 8 eggs, you should end up with 2 albinos.

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