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When they all look female I know i'm doing something wrong!
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1.1 96, 04 Het Albino - "Suzie" & "Lumpy"
0.1 04 Anery Het Snow- "Squelchy"
1.0 06 TH-Moonglow - "Gargamel"
1.2 01 BRBs- "Gobball", "Larva" & "Tofu"

What method are you using to sex them? By look I'm assuming popping or probing. I prefer palpating....

Tail end upside down..
Thumb under spine...
Slide finger tip from vent backwards (wet finger tip does help)....

You're feeling for a pair of little bumps, will slip out from under your finger tip as they are not attached to the skin/muscle where you feel them. Those would be the hemipenal tips.

A gif showing it me palpating a boa was a male and his bumps were right around that colored blotch....

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

If you do use palpating - prepare for all to be like Sir bites a lot....

At first I would hold the snake to make it easier to perform and would always get bit. Now I can do it while having the snake it a position it wants to be in and I get bit much much less.
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Mike

7.13 BRB
1.2 Spotted Python
1.0 Cal. King

Where's the fun in that???
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

ok, well either im palpating wrong, or half of my snakes had a sex change when i wasnt looking. Thanks for the gif you posted dave, but i still cant feel any boys. Can you palpate at any age, or just when very young? I think i sort of have your technique downpat, but i must be missing something, anymore advice for a first time palpatator
Also how succesfull is it, and why wouldnt more people use the technique? To me probing and popping seem a bit to invasive, and im sure is easier to hurt the snake.
cheers
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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo
1.1 het hypo BRB

In the mail from the states
1.1 something special BRB

aims to work out what all my 66% hets really are, and then go from there. Sky the limit, well maybe

lol, palpating is what I tried first, and had all females...

But i'm going to try again after watching his video. Hopefully i'll have more boys.
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1.1 96, 04 Het Albino - "Suzie" & "Lumpy"
0.1 04 Anery Het Snow- "Squelchy"
1.0 06 TH-Moonglow - "Gargamel"
1.2 01 BRBs- "Gobball", "Larva" & "Tofu"

Start the "sweep" at the vent, enough preasure to compress a little. Retry a little off center to each side. Those that feel soft or squishy are likely males. You're trying to stretch out the hemipenes, like a sock with a small ball in the end.

I do feel palpating is clearly less invasive and was "discovered" not that long ago compared to Probing and poping.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

ok dave, im a pro now. Spent the last hour doing all my yearlings, for ages i still couldnt find anything, but then once found it, seemed obvious and much easier in the others. Think i can be sure i male is a male, but not that a female is a female.

Tried in my ball pythons aswell, jesus i never realised how pathetically small there tails are!!! But was not having any luck, is this because as a more broad and fat snake, i need to push harder to find??
Also tried the bci's came up all females, so not so sure
As for the retics, im leaving them up to the breeders word!!
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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo
1.1 het hypo BRB

In the mail from the states
1.1 something special BRB

aims to work out what all my 66% hets really are, and then go from there. Sky the limit, well maybe

Sounds just like my learning curve. The hard part is finding the first one, once you've found one, then you know what it feels like. From there it's just practice!!!

On your BCI, they are hung, the BB's are much further from the vent than BRB's
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Dave,
It works best for me holding the snake upright, with my thumb on its back and index finger underneath. Make sure your checking far enough past the vent. The bumps may be farther back than you expect. The hardest part is knowing how much presure to use. You might not be useing enough. That was my mistake when I was learning this method. Once you feel the bumps there is no mistaking it. There is no mistaking a female for a male once you learn how to do this but there is a small chance that you could mistake a male for a female. It works at any age. I sexed all 27 babies in my last litter in probably 4 or 5 minutes by palpating. It's very fast and accurate.

Dan

Whats popping?
i know what probing is
and also the palpating(sp) is that usually pretty correct?
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1.0 of Me
0.1 girlfriend man is she a pretty one
1.3 Brazilian rainbow Boas
?.? Baby Brazilian rainbow boas
0.1 Australian blue Heeler puppy 1 year old.
TOO.MANY hours of school and work a week
NOT.ENOUGH money in the bank

Popping is using a rolling motion and preassure to extrovert or "pop" out the sex organs, duh male pops long thin organs and the female pops nothing. Been done on many hundreds of thousands of snakes and was the main method of choice in the industry for many years.

Palpating IMO is VERY accurate - once you get the hang of it on a specific species. I have the distinct advantage of being able to palpate dozens at a time and even those I do not feel the bb's the first pass I'm already fairly sure if it's a male or female just by the feel of the tail in general. I always make seversal passes until I either feel the BB's or am sure it's a female. Females not having the dual sheeths are much more solid and ungiving while males are softer and more likely to have lateral movement.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

if its a male vs a female?
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1.0 of Me
0.1 girlfriend man is she a pretty one
1.3 Brazilian rainbow Boas
?.? Baby Brazilian rainbow boas
0.1 Australian blue Heeler puppy 1 year old.
TOO.MANY hours of school and work a week
NOT.ENOUGH money in the bank

As your finger slides down the tail, if you feel two bumps (BB's) under the surface, those are the tips of the hemipenes. They are not connected and will slip out from under your finger as you near them.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats