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fluctuating humidity..

jasonadair Oct 09, 2008 10:20 AM

I purchased a Repti-Fogger to keep the humidity up in my baby BRB enclosure. I have it set to fog for five minutes every hour on the hour, and it seems to stay up pretty high. In the middle of the day when it is most warm, the humidity drops to approximately 65% towards the end of the hour before being fogged again.. Will these fluctuations impact my little guy? He has shed perfectly and eats like a champ. He seems to utilize his different mossy hides to thermoregulate and seems quite healthy. I just want to prevent any unseen or hidden problems. I'll post pics soon Thanks for the help in advance!

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Jeff Clark Oct 09, 2008 10:54 AM

That fluctuation of humidity is okay? But, where is all that water going in less than an hour? What kind of cage and how are you controlling the temperature? A Repti-Fogger seems like a lot of expense and trouble when the real problem may be that the cage allows too much humidity to escape. If you stop the escape of humidity you may not need the fogger. If you are applying lots of heat to the cage it is also escaping with the humidity.

>>I purchased a Repti-Fogger to keep the humidity up in my baby BRB enclosure. I have it set to fog for five minutes every hour on the hour, and it seems to stay up pretty high. In the middle of the day when it is most warm, the humidity drops to approximately 65% towards the end of the hour before being fogged again.. Will these fluctuations impact my little guy? He has shed perfectly and eats like a champ. He seems to utilize his different mossy hides to thermoregulate and seems quite healthy. I just want to prevent any unseen or hidden problems. I'll post pics soon Thanks for the help in advance!

rainbowsrus Oct 09, 2008 11:33 AM

I'll second Jeff on that.

So many people do so many things to keep humidity up including manual misting, aotomatic misting, foggers etc.

I have none of those mechanical devices nor do regularly mist any of my cages. I do occasionally mist an animal due to shed and mist all of my newborn babies prior to first shed.

I don't even own a humidity gauge!!!

My humidity care sheet.......

Rainbow humidity 101

Since this topic comes up from time to time, I’ve created a document with all my answers. Not steadfast rules and/or guidelines, just what works for me.

Being from tropical rain forests, Rainbow Boas require high humidity. There are three basic factors to humidity:

Evaporation - is the process of water molecules becoming airborne.

Dissipation - The natural tendency of airborne water particles is to spread out as far apart as possible.

Condensation - warm moist air contacting a cooler surface will cause the water molecules to condense into droplets on the cool surface.

The number one mistake made with rainbow boas is to give them lots of ventilation. They really do not require much oxygen. They’ve even been reported to submerge under water for up to 30 minutes at a time. That ventilation will allow all those precious airborne water molecules to dissipate into your house. Unless your house is humid, many more will leave than enter. This will result in the enclosure drying out.

Many keepers use misting regimens to keep humidity levels up. IMO, you need to set up the environment so it will automatically be humid. Here are the steps I take to provide that environment.

1) LIMIT VENTILATION - my cages at around 6 cubic feet only have one two inch round vent each. More than enough for air exchange.

2) Provide LARGE surface area water bowls. Remember, the larger the surface area, the more water will evaporate.

3) I provide damp hide boxes. A sweater box size for adults with holes in the sides. An inch of peat moss and another inch of green moss. All kept damp

4) Depending on your enclosure you can fine tune your system by moving the water bowl around. Closer to the warm end and more evaporation, closer to the cool end and less.

My cages:


A moss box:


Thanks for reading and I hope this helps.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

jasonadair Oct 09, 2008 11:59 AM

WOW! those are interesting setups.
i like them, simple and nice looking.
sounds like i may just be better off doing the plastic bin idea.

jasonadair Oct 09, 2008 11:57 AM

For now he is kept in a glass tank with a screen lid covered with a towel. The temps range from 74-84, it's in an air conditioned bedroom, and i keep a compact fluorescent overhead for light.i know that the glass tank/screen top is letting all the humidity out, but i like this tank and want to build a better top for it, but until then..

run26neys Oct 09, 2008 02:11 PM

Cover the screen lid tightly with platic wrap or aluminum foil and it will help hold the humidity in. I would also lay the towel on top of that to help hold in heat.

Just make sure there are some small gaps to let a little bit of air in and out.
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Mike

7.13 BRB
1.2 Spotted Python
1.0 Cal. King

jasonadair Oct 09, 2008 04:46 PM

gonna try the plastic wrap tonight. thanks for all the helpful tips and hints.
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1 snow corn
1 redtail
1 baby BRB

Jeff Clark Oct 09, 2008 05:00 PM

Just be careful covering up. Holding the humidity in is great but it will also hold the heat in. If you are heating with something that is not fully controlled with a proportional thermostat the overall cage temperature can rise many degrees. Many people find that if their room temperature is in the 70s and they cover up to keep the humidity in the cage temperature will stabilize the same as the room temperature and they only need heat on the cage if and when the room temperature drops below the low 70s.

>>gonna try the plastic wrap tonight. thanks for all the helpful tips and hints.
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>>1 snow corn
>>1 redtail
>>1 baby BRB

jasonadair Oct 09, 2008 05:12 PM

Well this kinda brings up another topic.. if i cover the whole top.. i may not be able to put very good overhead lighting over him. so how necessary is overhead lighting for BRB's? it's just strange to think of not using any..
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1 snow corn
1 redtail
1 baby BRB

gfx Oct 09, 2008 06:48 PM

No need for lighting. They actually seem to prefer you dont light them.

Pretty little snake!
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Julie

www.[url ban]/gfx

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