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BWP attitude adjustment

bwaffa Oct 11, 2008 02:34 PM

I just recently completed acquiring my unrelated pair of brown water pythons (L. fuscus) -- hoping to breed them in a few years. Purchased the male who is perfect in every way from Tom Keogan (like every snake I've ever gotten from Tom). And I got the female, a yearling, from East Bay Viv. Both are feeding like Star Wars rancors.

The female, though absolutely stunning to look at, is one of the most ill-tempered animals I've ever encountered. You can be 5 feet from her enclosure and watch her do the saw-scale dance -- complete with bothered writhing, masticating, ceaseless tongue flicking, and frequent strikes at the plastic walls of her enclosure. God forbid you open the lid without a shield handy as she has the ability to strike and become airborne simultaneously.

This cranky creature is in quarantine right now (i.e. next to my bed and not yet in the snake room). My hope is that with daily handling, which my poor arms have endured for almost two weeks now, she'll calm down like the rest of my snakes. I'm seeing some noticeable improvement (e.g. she's mostly stopped spraying me with musk and excrement whenever I pick her up). Also, for better or worse, her biting is becoming less predictable. For example, now rather than striking right when I remove the lid, she waits until she's settled comfortably on my arm before chomping into it.

I'm posting for two reasons:

1. If anyone has any SPECIES-SPECIFIC advice for taming an L. fuscus shrew, I'd be really interested to hear what's worked for you.

2. I'm concerned about her frequently striking the walls of her enclosure. Beyond the unthinkable damage I have to imagine it's doing to her developing, pea-size brain, I've noticed that the very distal anterior tip of her mandible appears to be bent inward. I can't tell if it's an alignment thing or maybe something she does voluntarily as part of her threat display? I'm concerned it might be related to her striking the cage, although that part of her head isn't the part you would expect to be affected is it? Snakes either strike with a gaping open mouth or, sometimes as a threat, just with the snout. No? I'm not really sure what's going on...
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1.1 white lipped python (Leiopython albertisii)
1.1 macklott's python (Liasis mackloti)
1.1 brown water python (Liasis fuscus)
1.0 bismark's ringed python (Bothrochilus boa)
0.1 hamper-line starburst woma (Aspidites ramsayi)
2.0 WC calabar python (Charina reinhardtii)
1.0 ball python (Python regius)
1.1 hypo apricot pueblan milksnake (Lampropeltis triangulum campbelli)
0.1 montane egg eater (Dasypeltis atra)

Replies (2)

king_crazy Oct 13, 2008 05:59 PM

Not species specific, but, it sounds like she would calm down (at least striking the cage) if she had a hide box and try painting 3 side of the enclosure to make her feel less vulnerable. Painting the side of my Argentine red tail's enclosure SIGNIFICANTLY reduced her striking as I passed by and seemed to give her an overall calmer disposition. She was WC and it took about 2 years to get her handleable but I think it helped when I painted the acrylic walls of the tank. Second, and maybe this is nothing new to you, you need to be sure your movements are deliberate and slow. Also like breaking a dog, persistence and building trust are key. Hope this helps a little.

briandorry55 Oct 31, 2008 01:14 AM

She is beautiful...Is she striking at the walls of her cage even when youre not around?

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