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I've had this beautiful girl for several years. She was sold to me as an Albino Sonoran Gopher. She's about 5' & around 4 pounds. Lately an acquaintance has been saying gophers don't get that big & she must be a bull snake. Can you all help me out? I thought bulls had that slight overhang over the eyes that makes 'em look like they're glaring.

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Robins Critters
1.0 Hog Island Boa Harley
0.1 Albino Sonoran Gopher Snake Jasmine
0.1 Kenyan Sand Boa Kenya
1.0 Tricolor Hognose Yoshi
0.2 Leopard Geckos Tang & Roxy
1.3 Crested Geckos Fox Mulder, Zoe, Peek & Belle
1.0 Blue Tongue Skink Indigo
1.1 Bearded Dragons Jarvis & Missy
1.1 Eastern Box Turtles Squirtle & Yurtle
1.1 Pacman Frogs CamoFrog & Buffy the Cricket Slayer
1.0 Southern Toad L.T.-Little Toad
0.2 Tiger Salamanders Tiger & Sally
1.1 Mossy Frogs Kermit & Kate Mossy
1.1 Firebelly Newts Wayne Newton & Thandie Newton
1.1 Cats Gus & Mena

I dont know much about other species but as my first snake was a bull i would say this is not as it lokks nothing like my bull ie shape of head and the fact that there is no overhang above the eyes dont take my word though just thought i would add my opinion regards cheesemonkey.

Clearer photos would be benificial, however, based on what I can see, it appears to e a very nice Sonoran Gopher. Attaining the length you described is not uncommon. Maybe the snake could use a bit of adiet but not a big worry.

IMO, sonorans (normals) are a bit more contrasting than bulls (normal) and the sonorans tend to have a more reddish blotch coloration.

My 2 cents.

dc

wow dc! haven't you ever been told that you aren't supposed to tell a lady that she needs a diet might as well just say "you are a chunky snake. you should go for the low carb rats. might help with your figure."

seriosly though, my 2 cents is it looks like a nice gopher to me. i believe pits are supposed to be a heavy bodied snake. i've seen some opinions vary as to how heavy. maybe a little thick but i would rather have them a little thick than thin. that's just mo. take care....

jonathan

Looks like my adult male albino sonoran. Been looking for a mate for him for some time. Can't seem to find anything other than hatchlings.

Take care
Jeff Port

Thank you everybody. She looks just like every albino sonoran pic I've ever seen & fits the descriptions I've read as well. Just wanted some confirmation.

Jeff, where do you live? Maybe our snakes could be friends
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Robins Critters
1.0 Hog Island Boa Harley
0.1 Albino Sonoran Gopher Snake Jasmine
0.1 Kenyan Sand Boa Kenya
1.0 Tricolor Hognose Yoshi
0.1 Bubblegum Snow Corn Baby
1.0 Veiled Chameleon Frank
0.2 Leopard Geckos Tang & Roxy
2.3 Crested Geckos Fox Mulder,Ziggy, Zoe, Peek & Belle
1.0 Blue Tongue Skink Indigo
1.1 Bearded Dragons Jarvis & Missy
1.1 Eastern Box Turtles Squirtle & Yurtle
1.1 Pacman Frogs CamoFrog & Buffy the Cricket Slayer
0.0.1 Vietnamese Blue Tree Frog Cerulean
0.2 Tiger Salamanders Tiger & Sally
1.1 Mossy Frogs Kermit & Kate Mossy
1.1 Firebelly Newts Wayne Newton & Thandie Newton
1.1 Cats Gus & Mena

I live in Illinois. And you?

Utah. Bummer
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Robins Critters
1.0 Hog Island Boa Harley
0.1 Albino Sonoran Gopher Snake Jasmine
0.1 Kenyan Sand Boa Kenya
1.0 Tricolor Hognose Yoshi
0.1 Bubblegum Snow Corn Baby
1.0 Veiled Chameleon Frank
0.2 Leopard Geckos Tang & Roxy
2.3 Crested Geckos Fox Mulder,Ziggy, Zoe, Peek & Belle
1.0 Blue Tongue Skink Indigo
1.1 Bearded Dragons Jarvis & Missy
1.1 Eastern Box Turtles Squirtle & Yurtle
1.1 Pacman Frogs CamoFrog & Buffy the Cricket Slayer
0.0.1 Vietnamese Blue Tree Frog Cerulean
0.2 Tiger Salamanders Tiger & Sally
1.1 Mossy Frogs Kermit & Kate Mossy
1.1 Firebelly Newts Wayne Newton & Thandie Newton
1.1 Cats Gus & Mena

Oh well. Thanks for the offer.

Take care,
Jeff

There is no doubt in my mind that is Sonoran from the original Albino line judging from the colors and shape of blotches.

Jason

Here's a few full body shots. The one on the carpet is from a few years ago. The grass pic is from this summer.

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Robins Critters
1.0 Hog Island Boa Harley
0.1 Albino Sonoran Gopher Snake Jasmine
0.1 Kenyan Sand Boa Kenya
1.0 Tricolor Hognose Yoshi
0.1 Bubblegum Snow Corn Baby
1.0 Veiled Chameleon Frank
0.2 Leopard Geckos Tang & Roxy
2.3 Crested Geckos Fox Mulder,Ziggy, Zoe, Peek & Belle
1.0 Blue Tongue Skink Indigo
1.1 Bearded Dragons Jarvis & Missy
1.1 Eastern Box Turtles Squirtle & Yurtle
1.1 Pacman Frogs CamoFrog & Buffy the Cricket Slayer
0.0.1 Vietnamese Blue Tree Frog Cerulean
0.2 Tiger Salamanders Tiger & Sally
1.1 Mossy Frogs Kermit & Kate Mossy
1.1 Firebelly Newts Wayne Newton & Thandie Newton
1.1 Cats Gus & Mena