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Need advice/help with Blue-Spotted/Yellow-Spoted Timors (long, sorry!)

justancguy Sep 07, 2003 03:19 AM

I went against all my rules for acquiring new herps. I saw the timors and forgot about ackies and the frilled dragons. So, I made an uniformed buy 2 blue-spotted and one yellow spotted. Have them in a 4'X 2'6" X 2' (LxHxW), I know this is way too small for three, especially now that my vet informed me that they are all males...what are the chances?! So, a few questions...in deciding how to go about creating new environments for them, I designed a circular cage measuring 6 to 7 ft. tall, with a 3 foot diameter - the center of the cage comprises of a large tree trunk with many holes and loose bark. 1'6" of substrate depth, numerous basking spots - branches, rocks, etc. Then I find out they are all males...maybe...the vet has "never sexed a monitor of this type before" and wasn't sure how many scales the probe would go down for male/female. The two blue spots went down 9-10 scales, while the yellow-spot went down 7-8 scales..any possibility that one is female? Regardless, do I need to separate the 3 males, forget that cage design and make 3, smaller, separate ones? I want to eventually breed...

Oh, one last question, how high should i keep humidity, I know it is relatively high, but I read that Timor and Roti stay a bit drier 7 months of the year or so, due to winds and its close proximity to the drier Australian continent...any thoughts? Thanks much!

Replies (2)

mkbay Sep 07, 2003 06:25 PM

Hi,
BLue spot monitors (V. auffenbergi) from Roti have been bred in captivity, in 2000 I beliueve by Andreas Kirschner, and good captivity stuff by John Hogston, former editor "Dragon News" - I think all of the newsletters are on-line on his web page?

I would deepen the substrate to 1 foot; Not a whole of info on Roti Island per-say, but I've got some stuff on it: "Roti is fertile, well watered, many of whom are christians, grow sago, rice, maize, tobacco, rear horses, sheep, goats, pigs and fish (Darby, 1944).

Good luck!
mbayles

G Quirk Sep 08, 2003 04:20 PM

I would not go with the Vets all males, monitors should not be probed for sexual identification, the Hemipenile/Hemiclitoris structures are built in such a way that depending on probe size males/females could probe to the same # of scales.They should be sexed by popping and/or secondary sexual characteristics.
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