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Possession Rules

MaureenCarpenter Oct 16, 2008 02:46 PM

in the state of California...are the numbers you can keep restricted? Since they are all classified as "the same critter" with locale differences, how many can one person have in California, if anyone knows. Just curious. (Lurk lurk)

Replies (18)

Rosebuds Oct 16, 2008 10:13 PM

Well, they really aren't all classified as the same, just the Eastern, non desert and reticulated, or so I think, but Eve says there are a few more. C. Bicintores, C. Nebrius, C reticularis, and C. Vestigium at least are all "officially" classfied as separate species. These are the desert collareds. The Bicintores and vestigiums can be found in California, the Nebrius and Bicintores can be found in the Sonoran desert, and the reticularis is only found in south Texas/N. Mexico. They are endangered or threatened.

Kinda makes your head spin, don't it?

Maureen, you need a collared or two. They really are cute, friendly and unique.

PHEve Oct 16, 2008 11:19 PM

C. collaris

C. dickersonae

C. vestigium

C. bicinctores

C. grismeri

C. reticulatus

C. insularis

C. antiquus
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Rosebuds Oct 17, 2008 07:20 AM

Thanks! I forgot about the dickerson's,and need to look up the rest.What a diverse family!

hayseed Oct 17, 2008 07:22 AM

Eve, You should write a book about collared lizards, or maybe an article for reptiles magazine. I'd buy it!

PHEve Oct 17, 2008 09:37 AM

Your Sweet, lol, I have much to learn my friend, MUCH. It never ends, always NEW problems arise when ya think ya have it down, hehehehe.

No room for COCKY-NESS or Acting as if I know it all, that's what I think is wrong with some forums, and the reason for fighting and such.

I have learned the most by observing my gang over the years, but have also learned from many many good herpers. And one of the most important things I have learned is...

*** YOUR NEVER DONE LEARNING

Lilly

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PHEve / Eve

kristinL356 Oct 17, 2008 09:43 AM

I've always wanted one of the Dickerson's collareds. Too bad they're so hard to find.
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PHEve Oct 17, 2008 10:54 AM

LOVE them critters, you and Justin are okay too, lol I thought that was a pic of YOU laying in bed beside him, but then I read the caption and it said it was the kitty, hehehehhee LMAO

Justin does some awesome stuff, I find that SUPER COOL ! Congratulations on your FIND, he seems to be a KEEPER for sure,
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PHEve / Eve

kristinL356 Oct 17, 2008 11:00 AM

Wait, did you just say you couldn't tell the difference between me and the cat?
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PHEve Oct 17, 2008 12:35 PM

YEP, I thought it was funny, LMAO hope your not insulted, hehehehe , you know me, ROFL

Love the pics, you have become quite the photographer as well. What are you using, or is the CAT taking the pics. :P
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PHEve / Eve

kristinL356 Oct 17, 2008 02:43 PM

Nikon D50.
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PHEve Oct 17, 2008 10:51 AM

Hi Buddy, glad ya came down the road to collareds to see us, Your FINE in my book

Now you were saying you would like to keep some pretty collareds, so your here all the time, ehehhehehe LMAO

Tamaska

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PHEve / Eve

el_toro Oct 17, 2008 11:00 AM

I'm not from CA and don't know for sure, but didn't someone mention once that you're not allowed to collect/own/sell native Californian collared species? You can have eastern species, but not the locals? Just something that tickled my brain when I read the question.
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Torey
Eugene, Oregon, USA
1.1 Saharan Uros (Joe and Arthur)
3.0 Mali Uros (Spike, Turtle, and Tank)
1.1 Ornate Uros (Scuttlebutt and Shazzbot)
1.1 Collared Lizard (Ripcord and Rorschach)
2.0 Green Anoles (Bowser and Sprocket)
1.1 Chubby Housecats (Roscolux and Jenny)

PHEve Oct 17, 2008 12:42 PM

I think in California, you are allowed to have the species from your state, only a certain number, BUT you are NOT allowed to SELL the native lizards.

Someone from there can fill us in on the exact law.
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MaureenCarpenter Oct 17, 2008 04:11 PM

That sounds right if you go by the laws on other native California reptiles--a certain number you can have, no selling, bag limits. But you could give the lil tykes away-ay-yay!

Crotaphytuskidd Oct 17, 2008 09:00 PM

Hi there,

As of earlier this year, you could keep (2) bicintores and (2) vestigium per household per year, or something like that. The way I interpreted it was you could collect 2 individuals per year. After the year is up, you can collect 2 more. You can't sell those species here in CA. You certainly CAN give your offspring away, so you always have that avenue. I'm sure some folks here would be only TOO HAPPY to take the little guys off your hands.
:D

Hope I helped!
-Phil

Crotaphytuskidd Oct 17, 2008 09:02 PM

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/licensing/pdffiles/fg1502.pdf

there's a link for you!

-Phil

MaureenCarpenter Oct 18, 2008 01:20 PM

Thanks a jillion!!

wwwwwells Oct 26, 2008 11:53 AM

You can keep 2 C. bicinctores and 2 C. vestigium and as many of the other species(except C. reticulatus) as you like since they don't occur in California.

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