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housing together

ch23119 Oct 20, 2008 06:09 AM

despite a few issues to deal with such as feeding, cage size, etc. is it possible to house bull snakes together. I have a young male snow bull and am just curious to the thought. I definately realize the feeding outside caging is a must and I already do this and I'm assuming keeping the snakes similar sized is another must, but are there any other factors? sex? etc. thanks

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FunkyRes Oct 20, 2008 07:50 AM

There are some dangers but yes, you can house them together.
Make sure they have adequate hides so they don't feel too stressed, watch for aggression - but my experience with pac gophers from my teen years, that really isn't a problem (though I never housed two males together, was told not to by someone at East Bay Vivarium)
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tspuckler Oct 20, 2008 08:19 AM

I have a pair of Black Pines that have lived togather (and bred) for 7 years. There was a third pine, but it did not eat consistantly when housed with the other two. They do have a large cage with extra hideboxes. Some snakes are compatible, some aren't. I'd say it's worth trying though if you have a big cage.

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DISCERN Oct 20, 2008 04:12 PM

It is possible, but I would have to ask, is it really necessary to do so??

First of all, while some snakes may do well with it, others may not, and then their stress level would be higher than it should be. Stress can lead to snakes not eating, etc.. Stress is something to always avoid if possible at all times with our snakes.

Second, if you do house some together, and one gets sick somehow, the other most likely will as well. Then, on top of that, if both get sick, it may be harder to pinpoint exactly WHO got sick and WHEN.

Third, as far as the issue of feeding, even though pits are not cannabalistic, accidents can happen. Jason from Envy housed some baby San Diego gophers ( I think that is what it was, correct me if I am wrong Jason )temporarily in a bigger cage while getting other cages ready, and one gopher ate another. Again, Jason may have to chime in on what exactly happened, as I am not sure if it was right after feeding time, but still, that can and does happen.

My old breeding partner in the nineties housed a hognose pair together for years, and one day, out of the blue, the female just devoured the male. This was after having the snakes housed together for a long, long time.

So, my overall thoughts are, while some may have done so with success, the reasons I listed would make me error on the side of caution, and I would keep everything separate.

Take care!
Billy
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FRoberts Oct 25, 2008 03:25 PM

My old breeding partner in the nineties....

Don't see many nanogenarian Herpetoculturist's !!!

>>It is possible, but I would have to ask, is it really necessary to do so??
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>>First of all, while some snakes may do well with it, others may not, and then their stress level would be higher than it should be. Stress can lead to snakes not eating, etc.. Stress is something to always avoid if possible at all times with our snakes.
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>>Second, if you do house some together, and one gets sick somehow, the other most likely will as well. Then, on top of that, if both get sick, it may be harder to pinpoint exactly WHO got sick and WHEN.
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>>Third, as far as the issue of feeding, even though pits are not cannabalistic, accidents can happen. Jason from Envy housed some baby San Diego gophers ( I think that is what it was, correct me if I am wrong Jason )temporarily in a bigger cage while getting other cages ready, and one gopher ate another. Again, Jason may have to chime in on what exactly happened, as I am not sure if it was right after feeding time, but still, that can and does happen.
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>>My old breeding partner in the nineties housed a hognose pair together for years, and one day, out of the blue, the female just devoured the male. This was after having the snakes housed together for a long, long time.
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>>So, my overall thoughts are, while some may have done so with success, the reasons I listed would make me error on the side of caution, and I would keep everything separate.
>>
>>Take care!
>>Billy
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>>Genesis 1:1

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