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? coral corns ?

oldworldlife Nov 01, 2008 03:10 AM

Alright my turn to ask genetics Well maybe not gene maybe it's just in the name well here goes I have been reading on coral corns and have been getting conflicting and confussing info at first it was simple hypo snow then it was just selective breeding of snows then I was told there was an currently an unidentified gene then back to selective breed amels now People claim that they came from monkeys
Alright I made the last one up or did I....
Any who I recently brought a group of snakes and as a freebee the guy sent along an offspring of one of the pairings and it looks creamy neon pink like a Micky d's strawberry milkshake with a little extra stawberry gel in it anyway He told me it was from the hypo 1.0 snow 0.1 pairing I don't know if they where het for anything.
But MY ? ARE
How do you make corals from a to z please
what do I already have there ?
What ever it is they will be going at it "for it" again in spring !
Thanks for the feedback
I'd post a pic but haven't figured out how to yet ?

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xblackheart Nov 04, 2008 07:47 PM

well, since no one else has replied, I will throw in a little info. Some people use the term Coral snow to describe realy pink corns. It does not always mean that there is anything genetic to them. Now, others use the term to refer to snows that are really pink, but are expressing hypo at the same time as amel and anery (snow). The hypo often makes the snakes really pink.

I am sure others will put in more info as well. Forgive me if my info is off a little. At least it'd get people to respond. lol
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oldworldlife Nov 04, 2008 11:03 PM

Thank you for the response

STEVES_KIKI Nov 05, 2008 12:31 PM

How do you make corals from a to z please

OK the definition of coral snow is and i quote from the cornsnake morph guide:
1. genetic combination of amel, anery and hypo.
2. genetic combination of amel and anery plus selective breeding for extreme coral colors.
SO coral snows are line bred (or) selective bred hypo snows. BUT there are many different types of hypo so theres no telling without breeding trials which "form" of hypo snow you have.

what do I already have there ?

Without a picture its impossible to tell what you have. it may be a real light colored amel or may very well be a coral now. BUT you said it was from a hypo and snow pairing. that the only critters who would come from such a pairing without 1 or both parents having hidden genes would be a normal looking cornsnake.

What ever it is they will be going at it "for it" again in spring !
Thanks for the feedback
I'd post a pic but haven't figured out how to yet ?

the easiest way (to me) is to make a free account with photobucket.com and upload the photos there. you can then use the [IMG] link and paste it here. that way you can use more than 3 photos per post. where if you upload by kingsnake.com photo gallery you can only post 3 photos per post.
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oldworldlife Nov 05, 2008 09:01 PM

Thank's for the input I do own Cornsnake Morph Guide and every other book out the on corns but the part that was unclear is the amel , anery, hypo, mix
as if to say I have the snow female and male hypo say there not hets, how then from point (A) first pairing go to point (Z) the 100% homozyguos coral.
As I know it if you breed hypo to snow you get
100% , het hypo ,het snow
So then what?
What is the coral?
how do you get from generation 1 there to the 100% homo coral
Sorry I am just missing something here???
And I'll try the photo bucket later tonight!

STEVES_KIKI Nov 06, 2008 12:31 AM

As I know it if you breed hypo to snow you get
100% , het hypo ,het snow
So then what?

You will need to breed the offspring to each other
OR to another normal het hypo, amel, anery
OR to a hypo snow (called coral snows by some people)
and you would have to continue selective breeding until you get what is considered a hypo snow. which is Homo Hypo, Amel and Anery.
Some hypo snows look like regular snows, SO you would have to breed the "coral" colored snows to each other and selective breed to make them more "coral looking"

What is the coral?

the coral is the pinkish orange color- personally i dont like to term coral snow and use hypo snow. that way i dont have to tell people that coral is just a "pet" name for hypo to make a "hypo snow" sound more appealing and different.

how do you get from generation 1 there to the 100% homo coral
Sorry I am just missing something here???

It would take multiple generations to produce a "NICE" hypo snow. because the more line breeding the brighter the color. the more outcrossed the lineage gets the colors will not be as bright.
For example.... a Sunglow is a line bred Amel with little to no white.
here is an example of a sunglow:

Now a regular Amel:

Another form of selective breeding is a Candy Cane Amel :

BUT if i were to cross one of the linebred Amels to the normal Amel i would get all regular Amels with only some slightly looking similar to the linebred Amel. and to get a NICE linebred amel you would have to linebreed ALL over again. i hope that helped

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oldworldlife Nov 07, 2008 02:39 AM

Yes This does help some more thank's
Anyone have any pics or does anyone have any of there own adults and baby pics would help theres not many pics around and the ones I've seen look total diff from each other.

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