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banning boas and pythons

bgood Nov 01, 2008 05:28 PM

This will surely piss some people off
http://www.pethobbyist.com/sitenews/index.php?/archives/202-Feds-Move-To-Ban-Pythons-Boas.html
will this restrict BRB's as well?
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aanata1 Nov 01, 2008 06:24 PM

what ever happened with this, or when they are voting on it?
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olstyn Nov 01, 2008 08:15 PM

My understanding was that it was, at least at this point, an information gathering session rather than a move to actually do any banning of ownership. That said, it was started from a massive quantity of misinformation, and it certainly seemed as though the people behind that misinformation were operating with the end goal of a ban. As to what species or genera would be banned, I think the main focus was on large species like Burmese and Reticulated Pythons, along with Anacondas and possibly large boas, though so many people have BCCs and BCIs that I think they might be unfeasible to ban. The whole thing stemmed from a faulty study which concluded that the Burmese in the Everglades could eventually spread across a lot of the southern USA.

If the people on the committee doing the deciding are rational have accurate information, it won't go through, at least not based on the idea that burms could spread across the country, which is plainly false. Frankly, I don't see how rainbow boas could be affected by this unless there's a ban on all snake ownership - they're relatively small and therefore not a threat to humans, and their environmental requirements would not allow them to survive in the wild in the vast majority of this country. They just aren't a problem.

The ball python people are justifiably worried about it though, because ball pythons are in the same genus as burms and retics, and if there is a move to ban the genus, rather than just the large species from it, they'd get screwed. The whole idea is that they'd get defined as injurious species under the Lacey act, which would prevent interstate sales and transport for anything other than zoos and other legitimate scientific purposes.

Anyway, back when all the fuss happened with this in April, it was just an information gathering session, and having heard nothing about it since, I'm operating under the idea that in another 6 months to a year when I'm in a situation where I'll be financially and space-wise able to get a BRB that it will still be legal to do so. Here's hoping, anyway.
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aanata1 Nov 01, 2008 10:37 PM

Yea I know it was a while ago, that why I asked, "what ever happened with it?" I worry because alongside my BRBs I do have some pretty big BCI's. I also wonder if they do ban large snakes how they will differentiate. Like a Surinam, definitely not that big compared to a burm, but big enough that someone might debate about it. It's in the same species as a Sonoran BCI, which average out at 4-5 ft and thin, like brazilians. I have a ton of sonorans Anyway, until there is some sort of vote on the issue, I'm not too worried about it. Thanks for the clarification!
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olstyn Nov 02, 2008 09:32 PM

Yeah, I wish I could tell you what happened with it. Having reread it a little more thoroughly, I notice that it's specifically targeted at the genera python, eunectes, and boa. Therefore your BCIs would be at risk, but BRBs and other epicrates species should be fine. Of course, that's not to say that if the people behind this situation succeed in getting those genera added to the Lacey act that they won't try to continue their assault on a wider group later. Still, given the great big nothing that has happened with it so far, I'm not sure we really have that much cause to worry.

On a completely separate note, I didn't realize there were any BCIs that didn't have the potential to grow to 10 feet and 50 plus pounds. I'll have to look up Sonoran BCIs - you've made me curious.
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