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just reading an interesting thing on the ball forums, talking about a 1500 gram 07 female. Just wondering, does anyone push there brbs quicker up to size, and if so have you seen any detrimental effects from this? Or trouble once breeding? Dave and jeff so you have any thoughts on this subject?
I have a bunch of Nov07 babies, ranging in weight from between approx 170-330 grams, but with one male at nearly 500, ive only ever feed him once a week, but he quite often gets everybody elses leftovers. He is robust, strong, healthy well proportioned etc etc. and has never missed a feed. He seems to be equating the weight well to length not width aswell. My brazilians seem to want food all the time, what are the reasons for and against giving it to them??
Cheers
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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo
2.2 het hypo BRB

In the mail from the states
- the entire contents of my credit card

Plain and simple, I feed mine, I feed them on more or less a schedule. Some weeks are famine weeks. I feed them proper size (or smaller) prey. I do not let any be a garbage disposal. I do move uneaten feeders to another animal but as only initial feeder, not seconds. IMO this is working for me, my animals are healthy and breeding, producing nice looking babies

I have heard in other species it's been found to be detrimental, I'm not willing to find out with my animals!!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count:
26.49 BRB
20.21 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Dave,
....300 to 500 grams by one year is faster than I raise them. Though I used to raise them that quick and seemed to have no problems. They do seem to convert food into nice linear healthy looking growth for the first few years.
Jeff

>>just reading an interesting thing on the ball forums, talking about a 1500 gram 07 female. Just wondering, does anyone push there brbs quicker up to size, and if so have you seen any detrimental effects from this? Or trouble once breeding? Dave and jeff so you have any thoughts on this subject?
>>I have a bunch of Nov07 babies, ranging in weight from between approx 170-330 grams, but with one male at nearly 500, ive only ever feed him once a week, but he quite often gets everybody elses leftovers. He is robust, strong, healthy well proportioned etc etc. and has never missed a feed. He seems to be equating the weight well to length not width aswell. My brazilians seem to want food all the time, what are the reasons for and against giving it to them??
>>Cheers
>>-----
>>Dave
>>
>>2.2 Normal BRBs
>>2.1 Anery BRB
>>4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
>>2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo
>>2.2 het hypo BRB
>>
>>In the mail from the states
>>- the entire contents of my credit card

thanks for your answers. Im not trying to condone peoples habits especially in balls/retics/burms of powerfeeding to get animals up to breeding size. A lot of it just seems to be about greed, and getting your money back.

The questions were more, at just letting me understand more about the feeding habits of brbs, Answers i havent been able to answer myself yet, from my own projects.

My nearly 500grams male, i havent tried to overfeed, more that he is just always hungry. That said, seeing he seems healthy and well proportioned, does that mean i have been feeding too much, or just right, or is he just a bit of a freak?

Jeff, what kind of weights have you seen on brbs, that truly have been pushed??
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Dave

2.2 Normal BRBs
2.1 Anery BRB
4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo
2.2 het hypo BRB

In the mail from the states
- the entire contents of my credit card

Dave,
....I used to have as a goal that females reach a pound (around 450 grams) by the time they were a year old. I was hoping to get females ready to breed at 18 months of age so that they would lay babies by the time they were 2 years old. I had many that reached a pound by the time they were a year old but have never had a female BRB lay babies at two years of age. I quit being in so much of a hurry over time and so do not try to grow them up so quickly anymore. I do not think we know enough to be ready to say that one way or the other is the better method. One thing I have noticed is that smaller thinner males are more active and seemingly more productive breeders than bigger heavier ones.
Jeff

>>thanks for your answers. Im not trying to condone peoples habits especially in balls/retics/burms of powerfeeding to get animals up to breeding size. A lot of it just seems to be about greed, and getting your money back.
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>>The questions were more, at just letting me understand more about the feeding habits of brbs, Answers i havent been able to answer myself yet, from my own projects.
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>>My nearly 500grams male, i havent tried to overfeed, more that he is just always hungry. That said, seeing he seems healthy and well proportioned, does that mean i have been feeding too much, or just right, or is he just a bit of a freak?
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>>Jeff, what kind of weights have you seen on brbs, that truly have been pushed??
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>>Dave
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>>2.2 Normal BRBs
>>2.1 Anery BRB
>>4.4 66% poss het anery BRB
>>2.5 66% poss het new european line hypo
>>2.2 het hypo BRB
>>
>>In the mail from the states
>>- the entire contents of my credit card