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How to keep a burm small? (more)

Amanda E Sep 07, 2003 10:38 PM

Hi. I have a cousin who is the manager at a pet store that never sells snakes and they just got a shipment of animals and there were 3 burms shipped to them accidentally.

I can tell them the basic care of a snake (I have 3 cornsnakes) but is there anything else specific I should tell her?

Also, my main question is how can she humanly (AKA without starving them) keep them under 3 feet for the longest possible time frame? There is a law in our county that it is illegal to sell a snake longer than 3 feet. I know that these guys are going to quickly double their size in no time, but can someone tell me what the bare minimum is okay to feed them. Otherwise they are going to have to get rid of them.
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alstiver@hotmail.com

1.0 '01 Hypo snow cornsnake (Tesla)
0.1 '02 Ghost (pastel) cornsnake (Banshee)
1.1 '02 Bloodred cornsnakes (Desi and Luci Too)
0.0.3 Goldfish (Kabuki, Isamu, and Yuki)
1.0 American Eskimo mutt (Rusty)

Replies (7)

joels417 Sep 07, 2003 11:19 PM

She needs to sell them now. Poor snakes.

Are they normals? How much do you want for them?

Amanda E Sep 08, 2003 12:44 PM

I don't know if the pet store is willing to ship them, but I will ask if you are interested. I could probably ship them to you if they wont do it. Just shoot me an email if you are really interested and I'll give you more details.

By the way I live in Akron, OH in case you happen to be local.

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alstiver@hotmail.com

1.0 '01 Hypo snow cornsnake (Tesla)
0.1 '02 Ghost (pastel) cornsnake (Banshee)
1.1 '02 Bloodred cornsnakes (Desi and Luci Too)
0.0.3 Goldfish (Kabuki, Isamu, and Yuki)
1.0 American Eskimo mutt (Rusty)

joels417 Sep 08, 2003 11:33 PM

n/p

>>I don't know if the pet store is willing to ship them, but I will ask if you are interested. I could probably ship them to you if they wont do it. Just shoot me an email if you are really interested and I'll give you more details.
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>>By the way I live in Akron, OH in case you happen to be local.
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>>alstiver@hotmail.com
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>>1.0 '01 Hypo snow cornsnake (Tesla)
>>0.1 '02 Ghost (pastel) cornsnake (Banshee)
>>1.1 '02 Bloodred cornsnakes (Desi and Luci Too)
>>0.0.3 Goldfish (Kabuki, Isamu, and Yuki)
>>1.0 American Eskimo mutt (Rusty)
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BrianSmith Sep 08, 2003 01:57 AM

It is not healthy or even ethical to intentionally keep a snake small for resale purposes,.... but, she can feed them a decent size meal once every week to maintain health and not promote excessive growth. Such as a large mouse or weanling rat for the first 6 or 8 weeks, then gradually increase the size of the meal a bit to where the meal is the same size proportionately as the snake slowly grows. Assuming these burmese are 22 to 24 inch hatchlings, meals such as this should not make them grow more than 2 inches per month (or so) but will give them adequate sustenance. This should buy her roughly 6 months to sell them before they top 3 feet. Beyond this period of time, however I would suggest increasing the size of the food items considerably.

>>Hi. I have a cousin who is the manager at a pet store that never sells snakes and they just got a shipment of animals and there were 3 burms shipped to them accidentally.
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>>I can tell them the basic care of a snake (I have 3 cornsnakes) but is there anything else specific I should tell her?
>>
>>Also, my main question is how can she humanly (AKA without starving them) keep them under 3 feet for the longest possible time frame? There is a law in our county that it is illegal to sell a snake longer than 3 feet. I know that these guys are going to quickly double their size in no time, but can someone tell me what the bare minimum is okay to feed them. Otherwise they are going to have to get rid of them.
>>-----
>>alstiver@hotmail.com
>>
>>1.0 '01 Hypo snow cornsnake (Tesla)
>>0.1 '02 Ghost (pastel) cornsnake (Banshee)
>>1.1 '02 Bloodred cornsnakes (Desi and Luci Too)
>>0.0.3 Goldfish (Kabuki, Isamu, and Yuki)
>>1.0 American Eskimo mutt (Rusty)
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True "power" is not to be found in social or economic placement or stature, which are merely illusory, finite, frail and brief.
True power is to be found in one's sheer will and personal determination to achieve one's goals at ANY cost and at ANY sacrifice.

Amanda E Sep 08, 2003 12:49 PM

I hoped that my post wasn't going to get slammed for me talking about underfeeding like it would in other forums.

Thanks for not doing so.

I know that you shouldn't try to keep them small indefinitely, I was just wanting to know what a good minimum feeding schedule would be for the short term. I will tell her what you told me and hopefully she will follow the advise.

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alstiver@hotmail.com

1.0 '01 Hypo snow cornsnake (Tesla)
0.1 '02 Ghost (pastel) cornsnake (Banshee)
1.1 '02 Bloodred cornsnakes (Desi and Luci Too)
0.0.3 Goldfish (Kabuki, Isamu, and Yuki)
1.0 American Eskimo mutt (Rusty)

BrianSmith Sep 08, 2003 03:49 PM

>>I hoped that my post wasn't going to get slammed for me talking about underfeeding like it would in other forums.
>>
>>Thanks for not doing so.
>>
>>I know that you shouldn't try to keep them small indefinitely, I was just wanting to know what a good minimum feeding schedule would be for the short term. I will tell her what you told me and hopefully she will follow the advise.
>>
>>
>>-----
>>alstiver@hotmail.com
>>
>>1.0 '01 Hypo snow cornsnake (Tesla)
>>0.1 '02 Ghost (pastel) cornsnake (Banshee)
>>1.1 '02 Bloodred cornsnakes (Desi and Luci Too)
>>0.0.3 Goldfish (Kabuki, Isamu, and Yuki)
>>1.0 American Eskimo mutt (Rusty)
-----
True "power" is not to be found in social or economic placement or stature, which are merely illusory, finite, frail and brief.
True power is to be found in one's sheer will and personal determination to achieve one's goals at ANY cost and at ANY sacrifice.

corey Sep 09, 2003 01:40 PM

slow the growth. And of course that would be done by feeding as seldom as possible while still maintaining good health for the burm. I recommend you go to a qualified exotics vet and honestly tell him/her what you want to accomplish. Then of course you have to realize, that no matter what you do, they will eventually (as long as they are healthy) get to be full sized. And no, putting them in a small container doesnt work. It's only inhumane. If you need a foster home for one of the burms, let me know. I can take one in.

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