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varanus albigularis (black throat)

jsaunders Nov 08, 2008 02:41 PM

I am just seeking some general information on this animal. I recently acquired a juvenile about 2ft in length. I've sought care sheets which adequately describe various food items though none mention frequency? How often must they be fed?

And with handling as mine is relaively tolerant of handling, how much is too much? Are there certain techniques one may employ to ease the process of making thier monitor more tame? And this is my first monitor, I've many snakes which the suggestion is to not handle them at least 24hrs after a meal. Does this apply for monitors as well?

Thanks in advance
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Replies (16)

RgK619 Nov 08, 2008 03:05 PM

i have a tanzanian black throat there pretty much the same as the one you have but they get an extra foot longer
hes about the same length of yours and i feed him twice a week 4 large mice on tuesday and 4 on friday they can eat more then that, if you feed him more then you should mix some feeder roaches with miner-all on them or boiled eggs and ground turkey into the diet
pretty much the more you feed your monitor the faster he will grow but feeding him rodents all of the time will make him obese so mix it up every once in a while they can also cause deadly fur impactions
have fun

jsaunders Nov 08, 2008 06:23 PM

That is about what I figured. I've been feeding him every few days for the last two weeks that I've had him. Either a rat hopper or a portion of ground turkey the size of my palm. Fortunately thier diet is varied enough I can avoid the roaches, hate those things.

RgK619 Nov 08, 2008 06:38 PM

yea that sounds right good thing about monitors is if you dont have the money for rats or mice you can feed them other inexpensive stuff to
just keep feeding him the way you are and in about 3/4 years helle be a full grown 6 foot fascinating reptile mine is only 8 months and hes 2ft 1 inch long when hes full grown helle be 61/2ftlong

BIGHYDRO Nov 08, 2008 08:27 PM

Wow, this is some awesome advise. Another classic example.
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SpyderPB6 Nov 08, 2008 08:35 PM

From my reading (which I advise you to do ALOT) you may be leaning in the wrong direction. Do yourself a VERY big favor and do some harcore searching on the forums here as far back as you can go.

Look for people (FR, SHvar, Robyn) who have repeated successes when reading posts. Stop looking for caresheets, infact you should use those for substrate instead of that mulch.

Goodluck,
Mike.

RgK619 Nov 08, 2008 08:37 PM

well right now im not using mulch im using coconut shavings which i know isnt great so i whant to get off of it i whant my husbandry to become great i eventualy knowledged enough (later on) to start breeding bts since there are very few breeders in the us
but thanks for the advice im going to take care of that tommorow

SHvar Nov 09, 2008 05:34 PM

Because Ive never had a monitor, or any reptile become impacted from anything, and I use rodents and chicken peeps exclusively, and have for many many years.
Keep in mind a healthy monitor can almost digest anything, period, even small rocks, and steel nails.
Feed daily for a long time yet, dont feed larger meals, but smaller meal more often.

SHvar Nov 09, 2008 05:40 PM

Theres no difference in size, period, they all average 6ft plus when adults. Heres a cross (2nd generation, cape banded WT, BT cross, crossed back to the cape banded).
Shes (yes female, the smaller sex)almost 7 years old and last year she was 6ft 8 inches long.

She is one of a few I had that were fed daily as young albigs and grew from 2ft to over 5ft in less than a year. She was 5ft long at a year old.

BIGHYDRO Nov 08, 2008 08:28 PM

What did the care sheets say to use as substrate?
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RgK619 Nov 08, 2008 08:34 PM

they said to use cypress mulch but i managed to end up on a page were theres a bt breeding facility on the east coast and they said they use organic soil mixed with decomposed granit and water to creat a good burrowing substrate that holds humididty and i whant to make sure its ok to use that or dirt from outside

any help would be much apprieciated

BIGHYDRO Nov 08, 2008 09:10 PM

That's a much better choice. As stated before, do alot of reading on here and be willing to make the changes that the others recommend and you will be on the fast track.
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RgK619 Nov 08, 2008 09:32 PM

yea ive already gone back and looked at a lot of post and learned alot in the last30 mins
but im still not sure im doing this right though
i feed him 4 large mice on tuesdays and 4 on fridays shoul i be feeding him more hes 8 months just over 2 feet he eats without a problem
also when i reach in to pick him up VERY VERY rarely he whil hiss this is like 1 every two weeks probably should i leave him alone or still attempt to pick him up ?
im almost positive i have my husbandry down but asking questions never hurt only makes it better
so any advice on anything about bts will help

SpyderPB6 Nov 08, 2008 10:29 PM

relax.

30 minutes is not enough. Once you have read for 5 or 10 or 500 solid hours about Monitors, not just your monitor but, in general as most information will help you from good sources. Then come back with your specific questions. It makes life easier for you and the people who try to help you.

I came here with ignorance blaring (no offense, just like yourself) and I quickly learned the extent of my mistake (getting a species that is not appropriate) and decided the animals do not deserve to suffer of my current inabilities.

So what is the best weapon against ignorance? Knowledge. How do you attain that often sought after emblem? Through trial and tribulation for one, or learning from other peoples’ mistakes and their successes (reading and asking questions). You will answer 99% of your questions with some solid reading of the forums, I guarantee it. You have to WANT to learn, and WANT to take the time to do it.

In short response to your question, most people try to feed their lizard’s everyday, as do I. If not directly then in-directly through leaving food in the enclosure available for them(crickets/dead rodents) when they want it NOT when you want them to want it.

While you are learning make sure your lizard has options in temperatures and a hot basking spot (at least 130 degrees SURFACE TEMP), and keep him fed well, the lizard will tell you when he is done eating, these animals are not ignorant like us. Do yourself a favor and don’t touch him until you fully understand what your responsibilities to the animal are going to be you are only going to complicate the learning process.

Goodluck,
Mike.

RgK619 Nov 08, 2008 11:14 PM

trust me i will keep reading im new to monitors but i have previous experiance with boids and pythons

yea my basking temp is around 130 then high ambient is 90 and lowest is 78 he has a retes stack and a cork log to hide in water is big enough for him to soak his cage is 4ft long 2ft wide and 2ft high in i soak him in luke warm water 1 and half the days before i feed him and i handle him 30 mins to an hour every day alot of that time i let him crawl on me and walk around and explore

but thanx greatly for your help it will help me become a better herphobbiest and my monitor will greatly appreciate it i will keep reading reptiles are a passion to me i constantly whant to learn about them

robyn@ProExotics Nov 08, 2008 11:37 PM

Feed your growing Blackthroat 5-7 days a week, just about every day. Rodents, feeder insects, done.

No need for ice cream, peanut butter, chicken gizzards, fish filets, filet o' fish, Humuhumunukunukuapua'a, or anything else.

Rodents (mice) and feeder insects, done. That would be best for your animal, and the other new keeper currently posting.

Best of luck to both of you.

Oh, and get the Savannah Monitor book by Bennett and Ravi. It already has all of your answers written down.
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RgK619 Nov 08, 2008 11:45 PM

ok thank you

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